Ideas for group theory for high school math project

Click For Summary
High school students seeking group theory project ideas may explore topics like coding theory, specifically RSA encryption, or delve into the properties of dihedral groups. Projects involving the coloring of cube faces or the mathematics behind Rubik's Cube can also be engaging, although they may be perceived as too simplistic. The discussion highlights the challenge of finding novel mathematical projects that avoid reliance on online resources. Expository papers are generally off-limits due to school regulations, but historical essays on group theory could be a viable alternative. Overall, the focus is on creating a project that is both scientifically rigorous and accessible for high school students.
  • #31
malawi_glenn said:
Problem is, this student has not taken my "linear algebra for high school students" (yet)
The very bare understanding I have of abstract algebra is solely from having deep knowledge of linear algebra. Unless this high school is a super-duper magnet school, I just don't see how anyone will have type of mathematical sophistication to do anything in this.
 
Science news on Phys.org
  • #32
swampwiz said:
The very bare understanding I have of abstract algebra is solely from having deep knowledge of linear algebra. Unless this high school is a super-duper magnet school, I just don't see how anyone will have type of mathematical sophistication to do anything in this.
No idea what a magnet school is.
But yes linear algebra is very good to know. But you can do the entire discrete mathematics by Biggs without knowing any linear algebra.

You'd be suprised what some of my students can ro at the age of 17-18. Some of their project work is more sophisticated than most bachelor theses...
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes vanhees71 and fresh_42
  • #33
malawi_glenn said:
You'd be suprised what some of my students can ro at the age of 17-18. Some of their project work is more sophisticated than most bachelor theses...
I like this point of view. There is no such thing as being too young to understand. It is only a matter of language, maybe of time, but not a matter of content. I will never forget, and I am absolutely sure she has forgotten, how my then-daughter of six years of age could handle negative numbers, including some basic arithmetic in ##\mathbb{Z}[ i ].## Of course, it was more about playing games against boring car rides. However, it shows what humans are capable of without the pressure of grades or the narrow - and in my mind silly - corset of a curriculum.
 
  • Like
Likes vanhees71 and berkeman
  • #34
swampwiz said:
The very bare understanding I have of abstract algebra is solely from having deep knowledge of linear algebra. Unless this high school is a super-duper magnet school, I just don't see how anyone will have type of mathematical sophistication to do anything in this.
I have seen a few kids over the years that are extremely brilliant, and new able to handle pure mathematics. the school I got my bs from has an early entrance exam. Where the majority of students are between 16-17 (close to 18). Currently, there is a 14 year old student taking ring theory, and should graduate next year. But yes, it is not the common experience of most high school students.

When I taught calculus to high schoolers, I actually introduced a bit of analysis, and they were fine with it. Like others mentioned, language, presentation, and teacher support or what is needed, and not caring what administration says.
 
  • #35
OK, but the important question here is, how did the project go? What did they end up doing?
 
  • #36
Office_Shredder said:
OK, but the important question here is, how did the project go? What did they end up doing?
Analysing some subset of moves in chess using group theory.
 
  • Like
Likes vanhees71 and berkeman

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
744
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
5K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
2K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
4K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K