Identifying Critical Numbers for Square Root and Rational Functions

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The discussion revolves around identifying critical numbers for the functions g(x) = sqrt(x² - 4) and f(x) = 1/(x² - 9). Participants are exploring the definitions and conditions that determine critical numbers in the context of these functions.

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding critical numbers, including the need to check where the functions are defined and the implications of their derivatives being zero or undefined. There is confusion regarding the critical numbers for g(x) and the interpretation of the results for f(x).

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Some participants have provided guidance on the definitions of critical numbers and have clarified the conditions under which certain values can be considered critical. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of these definitions on the identified critical numbers.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of critical numbers and the conditions under which functions are defined, particularly in relation to square root and rational functions. There is a focus on ensuring that the critical numbers identified meet the necessary criteria.

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Homework Statement


Find all critical numbers of:
g(x)= sqrt(x2-4)
and
f(x)= (1)/(x2-9)


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The Attempt at a Solution


1) sqrt(x2-4)
simplified to x(x-2)(x+2)-1/2 (please check)
and got zeroes as x=0, x=2, x=-2
and I got confused because if you do g(2) and g(-2) it equals zero. For some reason I can't tell if they are defined or undefined. x=0 works, so that is a critical number. The other two are throwing me off.

2) (1)/(x2-9)
zeroes were x=-3, x=3, x=0. Plugging 3 and -3 back into f(x) gave me undefined, so I'm pretty sure 0 is the only critical number.

If you could please check the second and help with the first that would be great. Thank you
 
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"1) sqrt(x2-4)
simplified to x(x-2)(x+2)-1/2"

- is that supposed to be the derivative of [tex]\sqrt{\,x^2 -4}[/tex]? if so, it isn't correct.

what is your definition of a critical value? (writing it out can help you see the appropriate path)
 
I'm honestly not sure what I did there... I re-did my derivative and found

x/((x2-4)1/2)

which would go to x/(((x+2)(x-2))1/2)

and give zeroes of -2,2,0. -2 and 2 would make the denominator 0 and be undefined, leaving 0 as the only CP. Sound right? Sorry if any errors I did that really quick.
 
yes, the derivative is

[tex] \frac{x}{\sqrt{\, x^2 - 4}}[/tex]

and this is zero or undefined for [itex]0 \text{ and } \pm 2[/itex].

Again, what is your definition of a critical number? (same as critical value)
 
Definition is:
x=c is a critical number for f(x) if f(c) is defined and f'(c)=0 or f'(c) is undefined.

So that means 2 and -2 WOULD be CPs?
 
tjohn101 said:
Definition is:
x=c is a critical number for f(x) if f(c) is defined and f'(c)=0 or f'(c) is undefined.

So that means 2 and -2 WOULD be CPs?

yes.
 
And 0 would not be one because it is undefined in f(x) (sqrt of a negative makes it undefined), correct?

And for the second problem, zero was the only one defined in f(x). Therefore it IS indeed a CP.
 

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