If photons have no mass, then how can they travel the speed of light?

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Photons have no rest mass, which allows them to travel at the speed of light. Their energy is derived from their motion, expressed by the equation E = pc, where p is momentum. Newton's laws do not apply to massless particles like photons, as they require momentum rather than mass. The discussion emphasizes that the traditional Newtonian view is inadequate for understanding the behavior of photons, especially at light speed. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of mass and energy in the context of modern physics.
  • #31
DaveC426913 said:
This is all theoretical physics.

I think what you're asking is "where do we discuss speculative physics on this message board?"

To which the answer is: ''on some other board".

:biggrin:

PF is devoted to established, mainstream physics.

Well, that sucks. But then again, it means I can both giveth and receiveth all the standard answers about what doesn't really work. I've gotten a lot of standard miles closing one eye, squinting through the other, and relaying what I see.
 
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  • #32
Hi Phrak! :smile:
Phrak said:
I've gotten a lot of standard miles closing one eye, squinting through the other, and relaying what I see.

Technically, you can't squint with one eye shut …

squinting is when the two eyes point in different directions … see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strabismus" :wink:
 
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  • #33
tiny-tim said:
Hi Phrak! :smile:


Technically, you can't squint with one eye shut …

squinting is when the two eyes point in different directions … see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strabismus" :wink:

/ Squints with one eye at Tiny across the pond. /
 
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  • #34
JMS61 said:
Just out of curiosity, how do we know that a photon does not have any rest mass? Yes a rest mass is not necessary to study it's behavior, but does that mean that it does not have any rest mass?

Astronomical observations only pose an upper bound of currently 2 10^{-25} eV (approx. 3.6 10^{-61} kg) on the photon mass, but all known experimental data seem to be in agreement with the assumption that the mass of the photon is exactly zero, as in the standard model.

See the entry ''Is the photon necessarily massless?'' in Chapter B2 of my theoretical physics FAQ at http://arnold-neumaier.at/physfaq/physics-faq.html#photon
 

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