If x^n=y^n and n is odd, then x=y.

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The discussion centers on the proof that if x^n = y^n and n is odd, then x must equal y. Participants analyze Spivak's argument, which uses the concept of trichotomy to establish that if x is not equal to y, one must be less than the other, leading to contradictions when raising both sides to an odd power. The qualitative understanding that odd exponents preserve the original sign reinforces the conclusion that x must equal y. Some participants express uncertainty about their comprehension of the proof's nuances. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the logical structure behind the proof and the importance of understanding trichotomy in this context.
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This is all seems fairly obvious to me and proving it is a bit awkward. In the previous exercise we proved that if x<y and n is odd, then x^n<y^n.

Spivak argues that, from the previous exercise, x<y would imply that x^n<y^n and y<x would imply that y^n<x^n. That's his whole proof. Is he simply saying that, by analogy, this relationship must hold?

I mean qualitatively it makes sense, because anything raised to an odd exponent retains it's original sign. Thus for x^n=y^n to hold, either x=y or -x=-y (which is obviously the same as x=y).
 
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if x is not equal to y then either x<y or y<x which both imply that x^n is not equal to y^n
 
No. What he is doing is using "trichotomy", that, for any numbers x, y, one and only one must hold:
x= y
x< y
y< x. If x is not equal to y then either x< y or y< x. If x< y then x^2&lt; y^2, contradicting "x^2= y^2 so that is not the case. If y< x then y^2&lt; x^2, contradicting "x^2= y^2. I presume that Spivak feels the "y< x" case is so similar to the "x< y" case that the reader could see that for himself.
 
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No. What he is doing is using "trichotomy", that, for any numbers x, y, one and only one must hold:
x= y
x< y
y< x. If x is not equal to y then either x< y or y< x. If x< y then x^2&lt; y^2, contradicting "x^2= y^2 so that is not the case. If y< x then y^2&lt; x^2, contradicting "x^2= y^2. I presume that Spivak feels the "y< x" case is so similar to the "x< y" case that the reader could see that for himself.

That makes perfect sense. I guess I'm not quite up to the level of the average reader then. My apologies.

Thanks guys.
 
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