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If you could live forever, would you?

  1. Nov 14, 2004 #1
    With the recent advancements in genetics, it may be possible in the not too distant future to double, triple or even live forever. The question I have for you is, if you would live forever, as you are now would you? Why or why not?

    What about if you could turn back the hands of time genetically to a younger or ahead to an older age and remain biologically in tact at that age forever would you? Why or why not?

    NOTE: In this hypothetical situation, you can still die by accidental death, by a terminal illnesses or voluntarily terminate your life.
     
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  3. Nov 14, 2004 #2
    I'd take the deal. Being 55 right now I wouldn't mind turning my biological clock back to about 35. I think I was at my peak at about 35 personally.

    The second thing is that option for voluntary termination. I'd only want the extended life as long as I could choose to end it at any time with respect. I'd also like to have medical assistance to end it in a peaecful way should I ever decide to do that.

    Without that option to respectfully end it I would decline the initial offer to extend it.
     
  4. Nov 14, 2004 #3
    Yes.

    It's a big world, and its constantly changing, so you can never know everything, do everything, be everything, but if you could live forever you'd constantly be fighting the good fight. Everytime you learn something, you realise how much more there is to learn, and I doubt that changes as you get older. I would not need the option to terminate voluntarily.
     
  5. Nov 17, 2004 #4

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    I turned around to my father and Stated that I had forgoten more than I would ever know. I was 13 years old.

    The Idea of living forever does not appeal in the slightest as it would still be this life I lead. For me, it would be better to start again.
     
  6. Nov 17, 2004 #5

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    I would dig it so long as I didn't have to work too hard to maintain my living expenses...
     
  7. Nov 23, 2004 #6
    Yes.

    I only would do it to get an extended life though. eventually i probably would say you know what i have had my more than fair share it is time to take my bow and leave.without that option for voluntary termination NO!!! i dont like things with never in them and never being able to die would be a bad thing even if it took 9999999999 years for you to realize it.
     
  8. Nov 23, 2004 #7
    i wouldn't live forever....think of all the turmoil you'd cause. people would think you're either god or the devil, they would get scared...people are always afraid of what they dont understand.
     
  9. Nov 25, 2004 #8
    Yes... with that option (otherwise no)

    YES
    Well, given that option that I can choose to die whenever I like, then YES.
    There are so many things in the future I would like to be alive for, so I would definitely take the deal.

    Although I would live as I am now, I would prefer to genetically live at a younger age (in the teens). I'd like to look young and have a lot of energy rather than being older in the thirties or twenties.
     
  10. Nov 26, 2004 #9
    yes i would want to choose to live forever even without the option to self terminate my life. I don't need reason other than too LIVE.
     
  11. Dec 13, 2004 #10
    I don't think I'd want to live forever... I mean, who would want to hang around until who knows when, attend all their loved ones' funerals, watch as the world slowly falls apart... it's a frightening thought, to live forever. wouldn't you get tired of history repeating itself with wars over the same things over and over again? and as mentioned above, people would eventually begin to suspect that you are some form of supernatural and would begin to fear you... the novel "interview with the vampire" comes to mind :blushing:
     
  12. Dec 14, 2004 #11
    I would choose a longer lifespan anyway, but more importantly I wonder how it would change the way people look at the world and each other...
    Going back to college at 83 might be fairly young after awhile...
    I suspect some people aren't going to want to, they've had enough of having enough after 10 years let alone 1000, but then I'll bet it would be a big evolutionary hurdle to cross, can people really learn to keep their brain young though, that's the real quesiton, without a young mind begetting a young brain a young body isn't going to make much difference, there was this guy who lived to be like 120 in asia somewhere and he took a walk everyday, do you think he ever got bored of seeing the same thing over and over, or did he not see the same thing everyday? Do you think sometimes people can will themselves to die? If so can they will themselves to live a bit longer too?
    I wonder how long it will be until the populace realize how close we are and the investment money starts rolling in like a tidal wave, it's almost as absurd a dream as putting a man on the moon too.
     
  13. Dec 14, 2004 #12
    I may take a longer lifespan, and a longer youth.. but never immortality in that respect.

    Maybe I'm just being my natural pessimist self, but I don't like this world I'm in....
     
  14. Dec 15, 2004 #13
    Im not sure if I want to live forever. As others have pointed out all of my loved ones will die within my infinite lifespan, thus causing more strife than anything else. What if humanity were to perish yet you still were able to live forever? That would be an awfully lonely world.

    Also with the current models, the sun will inevitably extinguish itself and the universe may contract on itself. So either the immortal person would freeze (or live in a dark world alone) or be torn to shreds as the universe systematically crunches everything into atoms.
     
  15. Dec 15, 2004 #14

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    There are examples of bacterial spores that are over 250,000,000 years old. You should ask them what it's like.
     
  16. Dec 16, 2004 #15
    "people would eventually begin to suspect that you are some form of supernatural and would begin to fear you" ~ 2 people said this so far
    For those who said this: You would want to die over this? Is it because you think you're making other people sad or you want to kill yourself over embaracement? I don't get why this of all reasons is something you'd say against living forever.

    Your loved ones would die but you would get over it. You have quite a long time. Plus you could meet new people and get very good at meeting new people. I would still be hesitant to live forever without the option of death because who knows what I'm going to learn which might make me want to die.
     
  17. Dec 18, 2004 #16
    I definitely wood. We can see alla the new tech that man invents and share our experiences
     
  18. Jan 2, 2005 #17
    Your must first distinguish betweein two kinds of PERFECTION:

    1) WEAK PERFECTION

    This means the ability to physically progress (both in structure and in function) to a point where you can live for a very long period of time without dieing, however, without completly eliminating all the menas by which the human beings kick the bucket or die. Perhaps, genetically as you suggested, but the fact remains that you can still die by whatever other means that have not been scientifically taken care of. So, weak human perfection never completley eliminates all the means by which we die.

    2) STRONG PERFECTION

    Strong perfection is simply IMMORTALITY in the strongest sense of the term, and this is the type that I advocate and very much desire in my entire philosophy. If you follow my postings in this PF, you should see it on display everywhere there. So whenever I use the term perfection in my responses to people's postings you know straight away that I am talking about immortality in the strongest sense of the word. This is simply the ability for human beings to finally survive physical destruction via scientific elimination of all the means by which human beings die (fire, heavy weights, knife and gun wounds on our frigile bodies, diseases of all kinds, poisons, WMDs, natural disasters of all kinds, such as the Asian Earthquakes few days ago, etc.)

    Hence, the project of survival of the human race is now by far the most important project in the whole wide world. We may pretend to be emotionally, intllectually or physically stronger than other people, and be fearless of death, behind closed doors and in the bottom of our hearts, the fact remains that we all desire everlasting life, if not for us, at least for the luckiest future generations.

    IMPORTANT: We must not be selfish and stupid about this project. Most imortantly, we must not say because our own generation now may not live to witness the dream of immortality fully scientifically realised, therefore we must act so carelessly so as to completely deny our future generations the opportinuity for this dream. We must conduct ourselves in a manner that permits this dream to be fully achieved now or later in future.
     
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  19. Jan 2, 2005 #18
    If you mean to extend life by simply rolling back one's biological clock then sure, but I most definitely wouldn't want to live forever. Obviously the longer one's lifespan the greater the risk of cancers and disease. That's not something a proverbial biological clock can prevent. There's always the threat of war, natural disaster, or any of the myriad of ways humans can perish. If, for whatever reason one were able to get off the planet and into deep space and live there alone (and somehow happily) forever I still wouldn't do it. Current observations have the universe expanding indefinitely which means that eventually everything will cool down further until the universe is cold and barren.

    I'd like to take a glimpse into the distant future, but I don't think I'd like to try living through till then. Humanity scares me at the current moment.

    Besides, what's so wrong with passing away?
     
  20. Jan 3, 2005 #19
    No

    My answer is a resounding NO! I think that living would begin to tire on you. Everyone you loved would be gone. While I wouldn'y mind livew for 5 or 6 centuries. I wouldn't want to live much past that. I am deeply realigious and would like to go to heaven at one point.
     
  21. Jan 18, 2005 #20
    I think that I am in the process of living forever.
     
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