I'm trying to come up with a good Ramsey Theory question (details)

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The discussion revolves around formulating interesting questions related to Ramsey Theory in the context of tilings (tessellations). Participants explore various ideas and challenges in creating problems that connect Ramsey Theory with coloring and adjacency properties of tiles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests asking about the minimum number of colors needed for a tiling such that no two adjacent tiles share the same color, aiming to incorporate tessellation concepts.
  • Another participant raises the idea of representing graphs as tilings and questions whether a colored tiling can be represented as a colored graph, noting the limitations of such representations.
  • A participant proposes a question regarding the existence of a tiling where every tile has a specified number of friends or strangers based on color adjacency, but notes difficulties in finding valid examples.
  • There is a mention of the four color map theorem in relation to the minimum number of colors needed for certain tiling configurations.
  • Concerns are expressed about the feasibility of having a colored graph where all tiles are adjacent to every other tile, suggesting that certain configurations may not be possible.

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Participants express various ideas and challenges without reaching a consensus on specific questions or solutions. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the formulation of Ramsey Theory questions in the context of tilings.

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Participants highlight the need for rigorous definitions of tilings and the limitations of current representations, indicating that assumptions about adjacency and coloring may affect the validity of proposed questions.

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I have this really cool idea of asking Ramsey Theory questions on tilings (tessellations).

Classical Ramsey theory asks what is the minimum number of people one needs to invite to a party in order to have that every person knows m mutual friends or n mutual strangers.

I was thinking about coloring a tiling red and blue and asking similar questions, but I'm not sure what would be interesting. I have thought about this for a couple of weeks.

Basically, Ramsey Theory is simply asking "how many elements of some structure must there be to guarantee that a particular property will hold?"

I'm just not sure how to come up with an interesting question!
 
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What - like "what is the minimum number of colors of tile needed so you can cover a surface so that no two adjacent tiles share the same color?" But something that requires students to exploit tesselation ideas?

OR: "How many trainee chefs in a kitchen before Ramsey is guaranteed to throw a wobbler?"
... ah... wrong Ramsey...
 
The most elmentary questions are whether there is some way to represent graphs as tilings and vice-versa.

It seems clear than any colored tiling could be represented as a colored graph by using an edge connection between two nodes to represent two tiles sharing a common side. That representation would not capture the property of two tiles only sharing a common vertex. Is there a graph that also represents that property?

And given a colored graph, can it be represented as a tiling? I suppose that requires a rigorous definition of what a tiling is.
 
The question I had, which didn't work, is this: Given positive integers m and n, does there exist a tiling such that for ANY two-coloring of the tiling, every tile has m friends OR n strangers. (In this case two tiles are friends if they are adjacent and share a color and strangers if they are adjacent and do not share a color)

But it doesn't work because even starting with the extremely basic equilateral triangle tiling, and low numbers such as m = 2, and n = 3, we always find counterexamples.

Simon Bridge said:
What - like "what is the minimum number of colors of tile needed so you can cover a surface so that no two adjacent tiles share the same color?" But something that requires students to exploit tesselation ideas?

OR: "How many trainee chefs in a kitchen before Ramsey is guaranteed to throw a wobbler?"
... ah... wrong Ramsey...

I'm pretty sure the answer to the first question is four via the four color map theorem, no?

Stephen Tashi said:
The most elmentary questions are whether there is some way to represent graphs as tilings and vice-versa.

It seems clear than any colored tiling could be represented as a colored graph by using an edge connection between two nodes to represent two tiles sharing a common side. That representation would not capture the property of two tiles only sharing a common vertex. Is there a graph that also represents that property?

And given a colored graph, can it be represented as a tiling? I suppose that requires a rigorous definition of what a tiling is.

The answer to the second question I'm guessing is no because what if you had a colored, say K_6. I don't think it would be possible to have all 6 tiles adjacent to every other tile at once. I will think about it.
 

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