Imaginary Numbers to Polar form

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around converting the expression (1+i)i into polar form, specifically finding the real values of r and θ. The subject area includes complex numbers and their representation in polar coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss starting by expressing 1+i in polar form and consider using logarithms to simplify the expression. There are attempts to match real and imaginary parts after expressing the terms in polar coordinates.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different methods to express the complex number in polar form. Some guidance has been offered regarding matching real and imaginary parts, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

There is some uncertainty regarding the manipulation of logarithmic terms and the transition between different forms of the expression. Participants are also questioning whether their approaches are correct as they navigate through the problem.

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Homework Statement


(1+i)i = re

Find the real values of r and θ.

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, after doing a similar(ish) question I decided taking logs would be a good start:

i loge(1+i) = loger + iθ

From here, I have no idea where to go. Using a power of i is killing me...
 
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Start by writing 1+i in polar form.
 
Right. So I should have:

([tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]e([tex]\pi[/tex]/4) i)i

And from there log?i can't seem to make that get towards a single polar form..
 
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Sounds like a good plan. Then you can match the real parts on both sides to each other and similarly with the imaginary parts.
 
tomeatworld said:
Right. So I should have:

([tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]e([tex]\pi[/tex]/4) i)i

And from there log?i can't seem to make that get towards a single polar form..
I don't understand how you got this.

[tex]1 + i = \sqrt{2}e^{i \pi/4}[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow ln(1 + i) = ln(\sqrt{2}e^{i \pi/4}) = ln\sqrt{2} + ln(e^{i \pi/4})[/tex]

The last term on the right can be simplified.
 
I got to that as the original question was (1+i)i so I had to put it back into the polar form of (1+i). (unless I'm missing something).

I still can't really see where to go (assuming I've gone the right way).

i (ln [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] ei [tex]\pi[/tex]/4)

i (ln [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] + ln ei [tex]\pi[/tex]/4)
i (ln [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] + i [tex]\pi[/tex] /4 )

and from there just multiply out to get the imaginary and real parts?
 
Yup, because on the RHS, the real part is log r and the imaginary part is [tex]\theta[/tex].
 
Ah wow, got it! Thanks a load! Great help!
 

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