Impact: Earth A meteor/comet impact simulator

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The discussion revolves around a meteor/comet impact simulator provided by Purdue University, exploring the effects of various impact parameters such as diameter, density, velocity, and angle of entry. Participants share their experiences and findings while experimenting with the simulator, discussing both the fun and frightening aspects of potential impacts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe the simulator as entertaining, noting the ability to vary impact parameters and observe different outcomes.
  • One participant mentions that a 1° angle of entry for an asteroid leads to catastrophic results, suggesting a Richter Scale magnitude of 14.6.
  • Another participant claims that at a 90° entry angle and full speed, 100% of the Earth would be melted, raising concerns about the implications of such impacts.
  • Participants discuss the potential for tsunamis generated by asteroids of various sizes, with specific height estimates for waves resulting from 100-meter asteroids.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the realism of a related video, suggesting it is more Hollywood than factual.
  • Another participant provides statistics on the frequency of impacts and potential damage from a hypothetical asteroid impact, including crater size and wind velocities.
  • There is a query about how to create a deeper crater without causing extensive damage to the planet, with one participant sharing their attempts and results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of enjoyment and concern regarding the simulator's implications. While some find it fun, others emphasize the serious nature of potential impacts. There is no consensus on the realism of the simulator's outputs or the implications of the scenarios discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about impact effects and crater sizes depend on specific parameters and assumptions that may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes speculative scenarios that are not resolved.

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Impact: Earth!

A meteor/comet impact simulator(text only) provided by Purdue University.

Lots of fun. :smile:

You can smash things into the Earth varying the diameter, density, velocity, angle, land or water entry, and your distance from impact.

1 meter: very boring. happens every 1.1 year. Even if you are within 1 km, they claim you can't hear it.
950 km(Ceres!): also kind of boring, but I had the speed set at minimum. Though at 1000 km, you'll be hit by 50,000 mph winds, and be covered by 36 miles of "ejecta".

The middling things are more interesting.
And you can chose from a list.

Apophis!: 260 meters
My settings: 72 m/s, 90° entry, impacting sedimentary rock
At 10km from impact:
Max wind velocity: 1430 m/s = 3200 mph
Duration of Irradiation: 1.39 minutes
Radiant flux (relative to the sun): 1880
Sound Intensity: 130 dB (Dangerously Loud)​

Ha! Dangerously loud, so cover your ears, before you're hit by 3200 mph winds, and burst spontaneously into flames. Ha!

Anyways, it's something to play with, if you're bored.

ps. This came across on Facebook today. There was a related video apparently put together by the Discovery Channel, that lasts about 5 minutes.
It's a simulation of a 500 km asteroid striking somewhere in the Pacific ocean.
The music is very nice: The Great Gig In The Sky, from Dark Side of the Moon.
 
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oh boy this is devilishly fun! Anyone will some interesting numbers?
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
oh boy this is devilishly fun! Anyone will some interesting numbers?
If you skip the moon like a rock on a pond, at zero degrees, nothing happens. (any speed)
If you change the angle of entry to 1°, all hell breaks loose: Richter Scale Magnitude: 14.6 (This is greater than any earthquake in recorded history)
At 90° and full speed: 100 percent of the Earth is melted. And FYI, the average depth of the Pacific is about 4300 meters. Tsunamis are fun too. But the asteroids have to be pretty big. A 10 meter iron asteroid disintegrates between 1/2 and 10 miles above the surface of the earth, depending on it's initial velocity.

100 meter asteroids make good tsunamis.
150 - 300 ft high. (minimum entry speed)
740 - 1480 ft high (maximum entry speed)​
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
oh boy this is devilishly fun! Anyone will some interesting numbers?
It's more scary than fun. Especially the video :eek:
 
zoki85 said:
It's more scary than fun. Especially the video :eek:

The video is mostly Hollywood.
According to "Impact: Earth!", regarding an asteroid of that size:

The average interval between impacts of this size is longer than the Earth's age.
Such impacts could only occur during the accumulation of the Earth, between 4.5 and 4 billion years ago.

I think this will be a useful tool, for the future, when the media gets all woo-wooey with doom and gloom, and their scary numbers.

For instance:

Asteroid that raced past Earth at 33,000mph last night came closer than the MOON
4-March-2014
Asteroid's 2014 DX110 closest approach will be at 21:07 GMT (16:07 EST)
It is 98ft (30m) across and will get within 217,000 miles (350,000km) of Earth
Asteroid is traveling at 33,000 mph and is not expected to hit the planet
...

Now we have a tool to plug the numbers into, and can see what happens.

The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 523 years

Final Crater Diameter: 1.05 km ( = 0.651 miles )
Final Crater Depth: 223 meters ( = 732 feet )


Quite impressive crater!
If it were to impact the heart of my city, it would kill tens of thousands.
But I live 8 km away, and would feel only a minor earthquake (4.7).
And the air blast is still quite impressive at such a distance:
Max wind velocity: 33.7 m/s = 75.4 mph
Sound Intensity: 84 dB (Loud as heavy traffic)
Damage Description:
Glass windows will shatter.

But diddling with the numbers, you can see that most of my friends would probably die!
2 km from the epicenter:
Peak Overpressure: 211000 Pa = 2.11 bars = 30 psi
Max wind velocity: 297 m/s = 665 mph
[= dead, imho]​
3 km:
Max wind velocity: 162 m/s = 362 mph [= probably dead]​
But, in the bigger scheme of things, based on PF's x-axis picture limit, the crater would be as big as a single pixel in the below image.

New game. Find the crater!

pf.2015.03.02.1747.one.pixel.asteroid.crater.find.it.jpg
 
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Any idea how to make a really deep crater? At best while leaving most of the planet more or less intact.

(Even if I crash 300 km of iron at 72 km/s, almost perpendicular, I get underwhelming 4.3 km deep crater)
 
Czcibor said:
Any idea how to make a really deep crater? At best while leaving most of the planet more or less intact.

(Even if I crash 300 km of iron at 72 km/s, almost perpendicular, I get underwhelming 4.3 km deep crater)

ya nic nie wiem.:rolleyes:
 

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