Incompressible vs constant density fluid flow

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The discussion centers around the concepts of "incompressible" and "constant density" in fluid flow, exploring their definitions and implications in various contexts, including fluid mechanics and chemical engineering.

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  • One participant questions whether "incompressible" and "constant density" are synonymous, noting a textbook statement that suggests incompressible fluids may not necessarily have constant density.
  • Another participant clarifies that an incompressible fluid flow requires the material derivative of density to be zero, implying a form of constant density, but acknowledges that individual time and spatial derivatives may not be zero.
  • A further contribution highlights that incompressible flow is typically associated with liquids, but gases can also be treated as incompressible under certain conditions for accuracy.
  • It is noted that in chemical engineering, a liquid can be considered incompressible even if its density varies with solute concentration.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between incompressibility and constant density, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations.

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Some assumptions about the definitions of "constant" and the conditions under which incompressibility is applied are not fully explored, leaving room for ambiguity in the discussion.

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This may sound like a basic question, but it's just to get it clear:

When describing fluid flows, does the term "incompressible" mean exactly the same thing as "constant density"?

I was under the impression that if a fluid cannot be compressed, then its density must remain constant for any fixed volume of fluid. My textbook intriguingly says "For an incompressible fluid (including the case of constant density), divergence is zero." This wording seems to suggest you can have an incompressible fluid which does not have constant density...
Can anyone elucidate?
Thanks in advance
 
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It depends on your definition of "constant". An incompressible fluid flow must have the material derivative of density equal to zero, so in a sense it is "constant density". It does mean that the individual time and spatial derivatives need not be zero, however.

According to the continuity equation, an equivalent statement to the material derivative being zero is that the divergence of the flow field is zero. That is a more easily measurable and computable quantity, so it is often just used as the definition of incompressibility for ease of use and to avoid confusion with various definitions of "constant".
 
Thanks, that's very useful.
 
Your textbook is quite right to be more general.

1) Incompressible flow mechanics is usually about liquids, however even with gas dynamics, some treatments regard the gas as incompressible for sufficient accuracy.

2) In chemical engineering for instance a liquid may possesses a solute concentration gradient and be 'incompressible' at all concentrations, but the density will vary with concentration.

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