Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the use of index notation in the context of partial derivatives, specifically focusing on the expression $$\frac {\partial{u_i}} {dx_j}\frac {\partial{u_i}} {dx_j}$$. Participants are exploring the implications of this expression, including whether it results in a scalar, vector, or tensor, and the correct interpretation of summation indices.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants clarify that the expression is not an equation but rather an expression, suggesting it could be interpreted as a double summation over indices.
- There is uncertainty regarding whether the expression always results in a scalar, with one participant questioning the sufficiency of information to affirm this.
- Another participant proposes that if ##u## represents a velocity vector, the partial derivatives could yield a single number, a vector, or a tensor, indicating a lack of consensus on the outcome.
- One participant suggests that the expression could also be represented as $$\left(\frac{\partial u_i} {\partial x_j} \right)^2$$, while also noting the distinction between partial and ordinary derivatives.
- There is a mention of the possibility of writing a second partial derivative, indicating further complexity in the interpretation of the notation.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the nature of the expression and its results, with no clear consensus on whether it yields a scalar, vector, or tensor. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the index notation and the definitions involved.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight potential ambiguities in the definitions of scalars, vectors, and tensors, as well as the interpretation of summation indices in the context of partial derivatives.