Inductive heating and eddy currents

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of inductive heating using two coils to melt lead in a ceramic disc mold. Participants explore the design considerations, magnetic field dynamics, and the effects of different coil configurations on heating efficiency. The conversation includes technical aspects of magnetic fields, eddy currents, and the use of materials in the setup.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether an iron core coil is better than an air core for focusing the magnetic field in the application.
  • There is a discussion about the effects of frequency on skin depth in lead, with some noting that higher frequencies restrict heating to the surface.
  • One participant suggests that the shape and size of the lead slug will affect the heating rate, indicating potential variability in heating across different molds.
  • Another participant proposes using a rotating magnet to stir molten metal for more even heating.
  • Concerns are raised about the coupling of the two coils and whether they should be driven in phase or oppositely to generate the desired magnetic field.
  • Some participants advocate for tuning the coils to resonance to improve efficiency, suggesting that a single coil might be ideal if feasible.
  • There is mention of using ferrite cores for higher frequency applications, with some participants agreeing on the necessity of having opposite poles facing each other in the coil configuration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the optimal coil configuration and driving methods for the inductive heating application. There is no consensus on whether the coils should be driven in phase or oppositely, nor on the necessity of using a magnetic core.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the specific design of the heating apparatus, including the impact of coil arrangement on magnetic field generation and heating efficiency. The effects of frequency on skin depth and heating dynamics are also noted as significant factors in the design process.

  • #61
artis said:
You need to look at the energy put in over time.
I did exactly that.
dB/dt * time = some J

Look at B in cos function
There are 4 distinct quadrants (that last gify shows it)
0-90deg (Bmax to zero)
90-180 (zero to Bmax)
180-270 (Bmax to zero)
270-360 (zero to Bmax)

The zero point is where dB/dt is max, as shown in that last gify.

I evaluated only the 0-90deg in my math above.
0-90 has a dB/dt, or J value from eddy (in my example, J per 25usec)
The overall J in eddy per full one cycle of frequency is the 0-90 J * 4

The push-pull in DC is technically AC.

To get same Bmax you need 100A DC, or 70.7A ACRMS

My math should be correct.
 

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