Inertial reference frame for 2&3 law

In summary, the 2nd and 3rd laws of motion are only valid in inertial frames. The first law defines the concept of an inertial frame and momentum, while the second law defines the concept of force and the third law is a true scientific law. Newton believed the first law was essential and not just a special case of the second law. The second law only applies in an inertial frame and fictitious forces are needed to make it appear to apply in a non-inertial frame.
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Does the concept of Inertial reference frame also applicable for 2nd & 3rd law of motion?
 
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The 2nd and 3rd laws are only valid in inertial frames. One way to look at the first law is that it establishes the context for the 2nd law. The first law defines the concept of an inertial frame and defines the concept of momentum. The second law is also more definition than law; it defines the concept of force. The third law is a true scientific law.
 
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The 2nd and 3rd laws are only valid in inertial frames. One way to look at the first law is that it establishes the context for the 2nd law. The first law defines the concept of an inertial frame and defines the concept of momentum. The second law is also more definition than law; it defines the concept of force. The third law is a true scientific law.

since 2nd law contain the term of acceleration & inertial frame consider the constant velocity or non-accelerated approach.
so i think 2nd law apply in non-inertial frame instead of inertial frame. am i right?? or wrong??
clear me.
thanks
 
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That the second law subsumes the first is a common mistake. Look at it this way: Newton was a very smart guy. Not just the smartest of his time, but possibly the smartest person of all time. He felt the first law was essential, that it is something more than just a special case of the second law.

And no, the second law only applies in an inertial frame. Fictitious forces must be introduced to make the second law appear to apply in a non-inertial frame.
 
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Yes, the concept of an inertial reference frame is applicable for both the second and third laws of motion. An inertial reference frame is a frame of reference in which Newton's laws of motion hold true. This means that in an inertial reference frame, an object will remain at rest or continue to move at a constant velocity unless acted upon by an external force (second law), and for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction (third law). These laws are fundamental principles of motion and are valid in any inertial reference frame, regardless of its position or velocity. Therefore, for the second and third laws of motion to be valid, the reference frame must also be inertial.
 

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What is an inertial reference frame?

An inertial reference frame is a coordinate system that is not accelerating and is used to describe the motion of objects relative to it. It follows Newton's first law of motion, which states that an object will remain at rest or in constant motion unless acted upon by an external force.

What is the significance of an inertial reference frame in the laws of motion?

An inertial reference frame is important because it allows us to observe and understand the behavior of objects according to Newton's laws of motion. In an inertial reference frame, the laws of motion hold true and can be used to predict the motion of objects.

What is the difference between an inertial and non-inertial reference frame?

An inertial reference frame is one that is not accelerating, while a non-inertial reference frame is one that is accelerating or rotating. In a non-inertial reference frame, the laws of motion do not hold true and additional forces must be taken into account.

How do the 2nd and 3rd laws of motion apply to an inertial reference frame?

The second law of motion states that the force applied to an object is equal to its mass multiplied by its acceleration. In an inertial reference frame, this force is the only force acting on the object, allowing us to accurately calculate its motion. The third law of motion states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. In an inertial reference frame, the equal and opposite forces can be observed and predicted.

Can an object be in an inertial reference frame?

No, an object cannot be in an inertial reference frame as it is a coordinate system used to describe the motion of objects. However, an object can be observed and analyzed relative to an inertial reference frame.

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