Initial wave function for an electron in a magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around the initial wave function of an electron in a magnetic field, specifically how it is influenced by different gauge choices in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of gauge transformations on wave functions and the conditions required for the initial wave function to fulfill certain properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Syrius introduces the problem of evolving an initial wave function under two Hamiltonians related by a gauge transformation and questions the conditions the initial wave function must meet based on the chosen gauge.
  • Some participants suggest that while the form of wave functions may depend on the gauge, physical measurements should remain independent of gauge choices.
  • Another participant elaborates on the transformation law for wave functions under gauge transformations, indicating that the wave function changes in a specific manner when the vector potential is altered.
  • Syrius provides an example illustrating that an initial wave function can be an eigenfunction in one gauge but not in another, raising concerns about how to select the appropriate initial wave function with desired properties based on gauge choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of gauge transformations for wave functions. There is no consensus on how to determine the appropriate initial wave function or the conditions it must satisfy, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of gauge choices in quantum mechanics and the potential for different interpretations of wave functions based on these choices. There are unresolved aspects regarding the dependence of initial conditions on gauge transformations.

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Hello everybody,

I am currently struggling with a problem that I came across while spending some free time on non-relativistic quantum mechanic problems.

Suppose we have an electron that is describe at time t_0 = 0 by a wave function in position space \psi(x,y,z). Furthermore, assume that we have a Hamiltonian
\hat{H}_1 = \frac{1}{2m}\left [ \mathbf{p}+\frac{e}{c} \mathbf{A}_1(\mathbf{r}) \right ]^2
with charge e, mass m and speed of light c. Then we can construct another Hamiltonian
\hat{H}_2 = \frac{1}{2m} \left [\mathbf{p}+\frac{e}{c} \mathbf{A}_2(\mathbf{r}) \right ]^2
that can be obtained from \hat{H}_1 via a gauge transformation of the vector potential
\mathbf{A}_2(\mathbf{r}) = \mathbf{A}_1(\mathbf{r}) + ∇ f(\mathbf{r})
with a scalar function f.

The question is now which of these two Hamiltonians do I use to evolve my initial wave function in time? I mean, if I fix the initial wave function and the Hamiltonian it is like fixing a gauge for the initial wave function.

In other words, are there some conditions that the initial wave function has to fulfill that depend on the chosen gauge?

Greetings, Syrius
 
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Maybe the form of wavefunctions will depend on the gauge, probably just an addition of phase factor in wavefunction. But all the physical measurements should be independent of gauge.
 
If we change A by a gauge transformation then
A'=A+∇λ(x),then the wave function will change accordingly as ψ'=ψe[ie/h-c∫∇'λ(x').ds']=ψe(ieλ(x)/h-c)
 
Hello Adrien and ck00,

thank you for your answers. I do know the transformation law that Adrien mentioned. However, my question is a little bit different and I will illustrate it with an example.

Let \hat{p}_{\text{mech}} = \hat{p} - \frac{q}{c} \mathbf{A}, where \hat{p} is the usual momentum operator and \mathbf{A} the vector potential. This operator is gauge covariant, i.e. it has the same form for every gauge.

Let us now assume that we are in a field free region and we choose our vector potential \mathbf{A} = 0. As an initial wave function I will take the eigenfunction |p> to the operator \hat{p}.

If we now change the gauge to \mathbf{A} = (1,0,0) and transform |p> with |p>' = e^{ieλ(x)/\hbar c} |p>, then we get that |p>' is indeed an eigenfunction to \hat{p}_{\text{mech}} = \hat{p} - \frac{q}{c} (1,0,0). So everything is correct here.

But now I can do everything in the backward way. I start with \mathbf{A} = (1,0,0) and the initial wave function |p> that is an eigenfunction to \hat{p} but it is not an eigenfunction to \hat{p}_{\text{mech}} = \hat{p} - \frac{q}{c} (1,0,0). That means, depending on the gauge, |p> can represent two different wave functions when one chooses it as the initial wave function. So my question is rather, how can I be sure that I choose the right initial wave function with the desired properties, when this properties may depend on the gauge.

Greetings, Syrius
 

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