Integral between a cone and a cylinder

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The problem involves finding the mass of a solid bounded by a cylinder and a cone, with a specified density function. The cylinder is defined by the equation (x-1)² + y² = 1, and the cone is described by z = (x² + y²)^(1/2). The context is set within the realm of multivariable calculus, particularly focusing on integration in cylindrical coordinates.

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  • Participants discuss the need to convert to cylindrical coordinates and express the bounds for integration. There is uncertainty regarding the limits for the radial coordinate r due to the cylinder's position. Some participants question the implications of the density function and the overall volume of the solid, suggesting that the intersection of the cylinder and cone may lead to infinite mass.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided insights into the geometric relationships between the figures involved, while others are seeking clarification on the bounds of integration. There is no explicit consensus on how to proceed, but various lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants note the challenge of expressing the bounds in cylindrical coordinates, particularly due to the cylinder's shift. There is also mention of the potential for infinite mass based on the density function and the geometric configuration of the solid.

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Find the mass of the solid bounded by the cylinder (x-1)2 + y2=1 and the cone z=(x2+y2) 1/2 if the density is (x2+y2) 1/2
I know that I have to substitute for cylindrical co-ordinates x=rcos(theta), y=rsin(theta), and z=z, and then use the change of variables formula to get the mass by integrating the density over the region. I'm just having a really hard time expressing the bounds of the region using cylindrical co-ordinates

for the cone, bounds are
0<theta<2pi
0<z<r
0<r<1?
 
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embemilyy said:
Find the mass of the solid bounded by the cylinder (x-1)2 + y2=1 and the cone z=(x2+y2) 1/2

I know that I have to substitute for cylindrical co-ordinates x=rcos(theta), y=rsin(theta), and z=z, and then use the change of variables formula to get the mass by integrating the density over the region. I'm just having a really hard time expressing the bounds of the region using cylindrical co-ordinates (or using any co-ordinates for that matter)
Hello embemilyy. Welcome to PF !

Certainly there's more to this problem.

What is the density?

Please state the complete problem word for word so we may help you.
 
Thanks for responding!
Sorry about that, I just posted the density.
density= (x2+y2)1/2.
It is bounded between the cone, the cylinder, and the plane z=0.
So I'm thinking the z bounds must be z=0 to z=r. I'm having trouble coming up with the bounds for r though, because of the shift in the cylinder.
 
embemilyy said:
Find the mass of the solid bounded by the cylinder (x-1)2 + y2=1 and the cone z=(x2+y2) 1/2 if the density is (x2+y2) 1/2

I know that I have to substitute for cylindrical co-ordinates x=rcos(theta), y=rsin(theta), and z=z, and then use the change of variables formula to get the mass by integrating the density over the region. I'm just having a really hard time expressing the bounds of the region using cylindrical co-ordinates

for the cone, bounds are
0<theta<2pi
0<z<r
0<r<1?

There's something not quite right here. The cylinder has a vertical axis and is the projection of the unit circle centered on (1,0) in the XY plane. The cone is a right circular cone with vertex at the origin, opening out linearly in accordance with z=r where r = sqrt(x2+y2) is the radial coordinate when using cylindrical coordinates. It seems to me that the intersection of these figures has an infinite volume. Since the density does not depend on z, it would appear that the mass is infinite, too...

Is the intention to consider the intersection of the cylinder and the complement (outside) of the cone? That at least gives a finite answer...
 
I was thinking of it as the region outside of the cone, above the xy-plane
 
Any ideas?
 
embemilyy said:
Any ideas?
write the equation of the cylinder in cylindrical coords.
 

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