Integral Evaluation: Solving \int^3_0 \sqrt{t^4+t^2} dt

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral \(\int^3_0 \sqrt{t^4+t^2} \ dt\) as part of a larger problem concerning the distance traveled by a particle over the interval from 0 to 3. Participants are exploring the simplification of the integrand and the implications of different integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss rewriting the integrand as \(t \sqrt{t^2+1}\) and the appropriateness of using integration by parts versus substitution. There is confusion regarding the validity of different expressions obtained through various methods of integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the simplification process and suggested methods for integration. There is an ongoing exploration of the differences in results obtained from different techniques, with acknowledgment that these results should ultimately align for definite integrals.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a potential typo in one of the expressions and question the uniqueness of the final integral based on the method of simplification used. The discussion highlights the importance of careful evaluation in the context of definite versus indefinite integrals.

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Homework Statement



This is part of a larger problem about finding the distance traveled by the particle over the interval 0≤t≤3. I need to solve the integral

[itex]\int^3_0 \sqrt{t^4+t^2} \ dt[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



So, is it correct to rewrite [itex]\sqrt{t^4+t^2}[/itex] as [itex]t \sqrt{t^2+1}[/itex] and then use integration by parts?

I'm confused because when I use Wolfarm online integrator to evaluate

[itex]\int \ \sqrt{t^4+t^2} = \frac{(t^2+1) \sqrt{t^4+x^2}}{3t}[/itex]

But when I use the other expression I get:

[itex]\int \ t \sqrt{t^2+1} = \frac{1}{3} (t^2+1)^{3/2}[/itex]

So which one is correct? :confused:
 
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Both seem to be valid. You had the right idea to calculate the integral by hand. Factor out the t^2, then remove it from the radical leaving [itex]t\sqrt{t^{2}+1}[/itex] and use integration by parts.
 
roam said:

Homework Statement



This is part of a larger problem about finding the distance traveled by the particle over the interval 0≤t≤3. I need to solve the integral

[itex]\int^3_0 \sqrt{t^4+t^2} \ dt[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



So, is it correct to rewrite [itex]\sqrt{t^4+t^2}[/itex] as [itex]t \sqrt{t^2+1}[/itex] and then use integration by parts?
Yes, it can be rewritten this way. I would use an ordinary substitution, though, not integration by parts.
roam said:
I'm confused because when I use Wolfarm online integrator to evaluate

[itex]\int \ \sqrt{t^4+t^2} = \frac{(t^2+1) \sqrt{t^4+x^2}}{3t}[/itex]
There's a typo above - you shouldn't have x in the antiderivative.
roam said:
But when I use the other expression I get:

[itex]\int \ t \sqrt{t^2+1} = \frac{1}{3} (t^2+1)^{3/2}[/itex]

So which one is correct? :confused:
 
Mark44 said:
Yes, it can be rewritten this way. I would use an ordinary substitution, though, not integration by parts.
There's a typo above - you shouldn't have x in the antiderivative.

That's a typo, I meant to say: [itex]\frac{(t^2+1)\sqrt{t^4+t^2}}{3t}[/itex]

So, my question was: shouldn't the final intrgral be unique regardless of how I simplify the integrand? Because I got two clearly different answers. Which method was correct?
 
The final integral will depend on your integration technique, but should be unique after simplification.

The second one is correct as it's in its most simplified form. Wolfram's format is computer-generated, so although different, it's equivalent.
 
If you use two techniques to evaluate an indefinite integral (no limits of integration), you won't necessarily get the same things, but they can differ by at most a constant.

If you use two techniques to evaluate a definite integral, they have to produce the same result (unless you make a mistake).
 

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