Integral help (will use partial fractions method)

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the square root of tangent, specifically the expression ∫√(tan x) dx. Participants are exploring the use of the partial fractions method in their attempts to simplify the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts a substitution method and expresses uncertainty about how to apply partial fractions due to the form of the numerator and denominator. Other participants suggest considering the factors of the denominator and question the use of complex factors in a real mathematics context.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided guidance on algebraic manipulations and the potential for using partial fractions. There is an ongoing exploration of how to break down the integral further, with some participants reflecting on their own progress and understanding of the method.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of constraints regarding the course focus on real mathematics, which may limit the use of complex factors in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



[tex]\int \sqrt{tanx} dx[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I used the substitution u = sqrt(tanx), then x = arctan(x^2)

so:

[tex]2 \int \frac{u^{2}}{u^{4} + 1} du = 2 \int \frac{u^{2}}{(u^{2} + 1)^{2} - 2u^{2}} =2 \int \frac{u^{2}}{(u^2 -\sqrt{2}u + 1)(u^2 +\sqrt{2}u + 1)}[/tex]

now, I suspect that some kind of partial fractions method can be used here, I have 2 irreducible quadratic factors in my denominator, but my numerator has a quadratic term as well.. not sure what to do with that. Please let me know, or give me an idea!

thanks (I'm not looking for a solution, I just need to know how to use the partial fraction method..)
 
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Hi holezch! :smile:

Partial fractions would only work if you had either u or u2 + 1 (or a linear combination) on the top.

Have you tried factoring it into four (complex) linear factors?
 
doh, it looked so hopeful.. maybe I could somehow make 2u^2 into some that will work? anyway, this is a course on REAL mathematics (I don't think I can use complex factors, or am expected to)

thanks for your reply :)
 
Your very last expression can actually be split into the following:
[tex]2 \int \left( -\frac{u}{2\sqrt{2}(-u^2 + u\sqrt{2} -1)} - \frac{u}{2\sqrt{2}(u^2 + u\sqrt{2} + 1)}\right) du.[/tex]

You need to make more algebraic manipulations after this, but I'm pretty sure this works.
 
thanks, I figured it out.

I solved
[tex]A(u^{2} +\sqrt{2}u + 1) + B(u^{2} -\sqrt{2}u + 1) = 2u^{2}, <br /> <br /> (A+B)u^{2} + (A - B)\sqrt{2}u + (A+B) = 2u^{2}[/tex]

then, we know that A + B = 0, so A = -B, then [tex](A+B)u^{2} = 0[/tex]
and we're left with
[tex](A-B)\sqrt{2}u = 2u^2,<br /> <br /> A-B = \sqrt{2}u, <br /> <br /> A = \sqrt{2}/2 u[/tex]

now I have

[tex]2 \int \frac{ \sqrt{2}/2 u }{(u^2 +\sqrt{2}u + 1)} - \frac{\sqrt{2}/2 u }{(u^2 -\sqrt{2}u + 1)}[/tex]

can I use the partial fractions method now? thanks!
 
okay, I finished it off with parts with each individual integral.. I'm still curious about the partial fraction stuff though :S
 
An alternative solution now that you've done the problem on your own:

[tex]\int \frac{2u^2}{u^4+1} du = \int \frac{u^2+1}{u^4+1} du + \int \frac{u^2-1}{u^4+1} du[/tex].

After dividing through numerator and denominator of those integrals by [itex]u^2[/itex] you may notice that it becomes:

[tex]\int \frac{d\left(u- \frac{1}{u}\right)}{ \left(u- \frac{1}{u}\right)^2 + 2} + \int \frac{d\left(u+ \frac{1}{u}\right)}{ \left(u+ \frac{1}{u}\right)^2 - 2}[/tex]
 

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