Integral of x/(x^4+1) with respect to t

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the function x/(x^4+1), initially stated with respect to t, which leads to some confusion regarding the variable of integration. Participants explore the appropriate substitutions and methods for solving the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using substitution, specifically letting u = x^2, and the implications of this substitution on the integral. There are questions about the handling of dx and the correct interpretation of the integral's variable.

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Some participants have provided guidance on substitution methods, while others are clarifying the original problem statement and its implications. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the variable of integration.

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There is a noted confusion about whether the integral should be evaluated with respect to t or x, which affects the interpretation of the problem. One participant explicitly corrects their initial statement regarding the variable of integration.

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Homework Statement


integral of x/(x^4+1) with respect to t


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i know your spose to use (x^2)^2=x^4, and use chain rule
but apart from that, i have ABSOLUTELY no idea.


The Attempt at a Solution


i have no idea where to begin, i tried doing it my reverse product rule but that was an epic fail. if i did i woudlnt be asking for help here.
 
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Yes, write this as x/((x^2)^2+ 1) and use the substitution u= x^2. Then du= 2x dx of (1/2)du= xdx. The denominator becomes u^2+ 1 so you are now integrating (1/2) du/(u^2+ 1) which should be an easy integral.
 
Hi brandy! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
brandy said:
integral of x/(x^4+1) with respect to t

If u = x2, then du = … ? :smile:
 
keep in mind I am really REALLY slow.
is this right, you said du= 2x *dx
so du/2=x*dx
and u subbed that in
for the numerator?
if so, where did the dx go
 
brandy said:
… where did the dx go

∫ x dx / (x4 + 1)

= ∫ (1/2) du / (x4 + 1)

= … ? :smile:
 
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i get it now
 
:biggrin: Wooooooohooooooooooooooooo! :biggrin:
 
I might be missing something but doesnt

integral of x/(x^4+1) with respect to t = \int \frac{x}{x^4+1} dt
 
Feldoh said:
I might be missing something but doesnt

integral of x/(x^4+1) with respect to t = \int \frac{x}{x^4+1} dt
Or maybe Brandy really means something like this:
\int_0^t \frac{x dx}{x^4 + 1}

If that's the case, then this would better be described, in words, as the definite integral from 0 to t of x divided by x4 + 1.

If that's not the case, then I have no idea what the problem is.
 
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lol my bad. i was meant to say with respect to x not t
 

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