Integrate sin(y)/(x+y): Tips to Solve Double Integral

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The discussion revolves around a double integral involving the function sin(y)/(x+y). The original poster is attempting to reverse the order of integration and integrate the resulting expression, expressing difficulty particularly with the integration process.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the integration with respect to x, noting that sin(y) is treated as a constant during this process. There are attempts to simplify the integral and suggestions regarding the use of logarithmic functions. The original poster expresses confusion about subsequent integration with respect to y.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the integration process and clarifying the bounds of the integrals. Some participants have offered guidance on simplifications and potential methods for further integration, while the original poster continues to express challenges.

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The original integral's bounds are specified as y and 0, and later as pi/2 and 0 for the second integral. There is mention of integration by parts as a potential method for the next steps.

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i have a double integral to reverse the order of and then integrate, i have reversed the order fine, however i am VERY stuck on the integration of the function in the first integral

integrate sin(y)/(x+y) dx between 0 and y

any pointers greately appreciated
 
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You're integrating wrt x, right? So sin(y) is a contant as far as the integration is concerned.
 
so it would just be sin(y) * integral 1/(x+y)

therefore sin(y) * ln(x+y)

if so I am going to feel like a fool :P
 
if this is the case i have now integrated it and subbed for (y) (from the limits) to get sin(y)*ln(2y) but i must now integrate that function wrt y, which is even harder than the first function >.< and i am very stuck, maybe integration by parts here?
 
Don't feel like a fool; the thing is so. Post the bounds so we can help...
 
ok the original integral was between y and 0 hence getting sin(y)*ln(2y)

now the integral is that function I've just typed between pi/2 and 0 dy

im muchos stuck
 
[tex]-\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin y \ \ln 2y \ dy =-\left[ \mbox{Ci}\left( \frac{1}{2}\pi \right) +\ln 2-\gamma\right][/tex].

Daniel.
 
The bounds on the first integral are y and 0 right? So just enter the bounds correctly. Don't skip too many steps or you might miss a simplification:
[tex]\ln(x+y)|^{x=y}_{x=0}=\ln(2y)-\ln(y)=\ln(\frac{2y}{y})=\ln2[/tex]

Which doesn't even depend on y, so the integral is easy as pie.
 
Galileo said:
The bounds on the first integral are y and 0 right? So just enter the bounds correctly. Don't skip too many steps or you might miss a simplification:
[tex]\ln(x+y)|^{x=y}_{x=0}=\ln(2y)-\ln(y)=\ln(\frac{2y}{y})=\ln2[/tex]

Which doesn't even depend on y, so the integral is easy as pie.

thanks :)

i just forgot to separate the variables and made life hard on myself
 

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