Integrate y = 2pi Int dz int(1-r^2)*r dr: Solution

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression y = 2π ∫ dz ∫ (1 - r²)r dr, focusing on the correct approach to evaluate the integral, including the limits of integration and potential techniques such as integration by parts or substitution.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about applying integration by parts for the integral and seeks guidance on the correct method.
  • Another participant suggests using a change of variable as a potential approach to the integration.
  • A third participant clarifies the limits of integration and proposes that both limits are from 0 to 1, indicating that integration by parts may not be necessary.
  • This participant also provides a detailed calculation for the integrals involved, using substitution to evaluate the inner integral.
  • Another participant questions the original integrand, suggesting that the integrand may have been misinterpreted and that no complex integration technique is needed if the integrand is as initially stated.

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There is no consensus on the correct interpretation of the integrand or the necessity of using integration by parts. Multiple competing views remain regarding the approach to the integration.

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Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions regarding the integrand and the limits of integration, leading to different interpretations of the problem.

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y = 2pi Int dz int(1-r^2)*r dr and the limits are (0,1) (note int = Integral)

I was trying to integrate it by parts for the second part and I think I am not doing it correctly. Which way can I apply for it.
 
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Try a change of variable.
 
maluta said:
y = 2pi Int dz int(1-r^2)*r dr and the limits are (0,1) (note int = Integral)

I was trying to integrate it by parts for the second part and I think I am not doing it correctly. Which way can I apply for it.
Which limits are 0, 1? Both? If this is
[tex]2\pi \int_0^1 dz \int_0^1 (1- r^2)r dr[/tex]
I see no reason to integrate by parts. The first integral is
[tex]\int_0^1 dz= \left[ z\right]_0^1= 1[/tex]
and the second is
[tex]\int_0^1 (1-r^2)r dr[/tex]
Let [itex]u= 1-r^2[/itex]. Then du= -2r dr. When r= 0, u= 1 and when r= 1, u= 0.
[tex]\int_1^0 u(-(1/2)du= \left{(-1/2)(u^2/2)\right]_1^0= (-1/2)(0- 1)= 1/2[/itex]<br /> [tex]2\pi\int_0^1 dz \int_0^1 (1-r^2)r dr= 2\pi (1)(1/2)= \pi[/tex][/tex]
 
(I assumed the OP meant r/(1-r^2) for the integrand. Otherwise, there is no need to use any "integration technique" for this integral.)
 

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