Integration. About -ve area and stationary value.

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This discussion focuses on integration techniques to find the area between a curve and a line segment, specifically the area enclosed between the curve y=x² and the line y=3+2x, with points A(3,9) and B(-1,1). The user correctly applied the formula A=∫(y2-y1) dx but encountered a negative area result of -32/3, indicating a potential issue with the limits of integration. Additionally, the discussion addresses finding the stationary value of a volume function V=12πr²-2πr³, leading to the conclusion that the stationary value occurs at r=2, yielding a volume of 64π.

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Greetings to all. :smile:

Okay, I have 2 simple questions about integration. They are summarized in topic title.

1) This is the figure:
http://usera.ImageCave.com/biosyn/qq.PNG

It shows a curve y=x^2 and the line y=3+2x.
Point A is (3,9) and point B is (-1,1).

We have to calculate the area of the region enclosed between the curve and the line segment AB.

I have used the formula A=\int (y2-y1) dx. Correct me if the formula is wrong. I've used the limits 3 and -1. Now, I have solved this and obtained the answer, but the problem is that the Area I'm getting is coming in negative. The answer to this question is 32/3 which is what I'm getting but only that it is -32/3.

Is this something to do with the figure or have I done something wrong?

2) This is the second part of a question. First part is done. We were asked to show the Volume, V cm^3, was given by:
V=12\pir2-2\pir3.

Okay, now the second part of the question says that Given that r varies, find the stationary value of V.

What I did here is, because the stat.value says that dV/dx = 0, I used:
0(dV/dx)=12\pir2-2\pir3.
0=24\pir-6\pir2.

After this, I don't know what else to do. The answer is coming as 64\pi. But how is this coming?

Any help? ::confused:
 
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SolCon said:
Greetings to all. :smile:

Okay, I have 2 simple questions about integration. They are summarized in topic title.

1) This is the figure:
http://usera.ImageCave.com/biosyn/qq.PNG

It shows a curve y=x^2 and the line y=3+2x.
Point A is (3,9) and point B is (-1,1).

We have to calculate the area of the region enclosed between the curve and the line segment AB.

I have used the formula A=\int (y2-y1) dx. Correct me if the formula is wrong. I've used the limits 3 and -1. Now, I have solved this and obtained the answer, but the problem is that the Area I'm getting is coming in negative. The answer to this question is 32/3 which is what I'm getting but only that it is -32/3.

Is this something to do with the figure or have I done something wrong?

Did you use -1 for the lower limit and 3 for the upper limit or did you have them backwards?

2) This is the second part of a question. First part is done. We were asked to show the Volume, V cm^3, was given by:
V=12\pir2-2\pir3.

What volume? Was this formula given or is it something you calculated?

Okay, now the second part of the question says that Given that r varies, find the stationary value of V.

What I did here is, because the stat.value says that dV/dx = 0, I used:
0(dV/dx)=12\pir2-2\pir3.
0=24\pir-6\pir2.

After this, I don't know what else to do. The answer is coming as 64\pi. But how is this coming?

Any help? ::confused:

So you would factor it:

6\pi r(4 - r^2) = 0

and r = 2 is the only reasonable value giving a non-zero volume. What volume to you get if r = 2? I'm guessing you may have a sign error in your volume calculation, which you didn't show.
 

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