Integration by Parametric Differentiation

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The discussion revolves around the application of integration by parametric differentiation to evaluate the integral \(\int^{\infty}_{0} x^3 e^{-9x} dx\). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the differentiation of an integral with respect to a parameter, specifically questioning the absence of a \(dx/d\alpha\) term and the implications of the Leibniz integral rule.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate both sides of an integral equation with respect to a parameter, raising questions about the validity of this operation and the role of the Leibniz integral rule. Other participants confirm the correctness of the approach and discuss the implications of the rule, while the original poster seeks further clarification on the notation and concepts involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the application of the Leibniz integral rule and its implications for differentiating under the integral sign. There is a productive exchange of ideas, with some participants providing reassurance and clarification regarding the original poster's understanding of the differentiation process.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a lack of familiarity with advanced mathematical notation and concepts, expressing concern about the accessibility of the material. There is a specific mention of limits of integration that do not depend on the parameter, which is relevant to the discussion of the Leibniz rule.

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Homework Statement


Having trouble understanding this

the example I saw was;

Solve [tex]\int^{\infty}_{0} x^3 e^{-9x} dx[/tex] using integration by parametric differentiation.

The Attempt at a Solution



well, i do know how to do this, so i set out my integral;

[tex]\int^{\infty}_{0} e^{-\alpha x} dx[/tex] = [tex]\frac{1}{\alpha}[/tex]

Now is where i get stuck, I'm told that now I can differentiate both sides with respect to alpha, because alpha is only a parameter, which is fine for the right hand side, however on the left, sureley I'm performing an operation on x, so why don't I get a dx/dalpha ? I am also at a loss to know how you can do it with the integral sign still there :O

this is the main problem I'm having, but anyway could someone check the rest of my working; so differentiating both sides;

[tex]-\int^{\infty}_{0}x e^{-\alpha x} dx = -\frac{1}{\alpha^2}[/tex]

[tex]\int^{\infty}_{0}x^2 e^{-\alpha x} dx = \frac{2}{\alpha^3}[/tex]

[tex]-\int^{\infty}_{0}x^3 e^{-\alpha x} dx = -\frac{6}{\alpha^4}[/tex]

so the integral of

[tex]\int^{\infty}_{0} x^3 e^{-9x} dx = \frac{6}{9^4}[/tex]

thanks again.

ps: i worked really hard on this LaTeX i hope you like it :biggrin:
 
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Nice LaTex! You are doing it exactly correctly. On the left side, you are just using the Leibniz integral rule. There's no reason to think you should get a dx/dalpha, is there?
 
Dick said:
Nice LaTex! You are doing it exactly correctly. On the left side, you are just using the Leibniz integral rule. There's no reason to think you should get a dx/dalpha, is there?

Thanks a lot for that, and is it because of leinbiz's rule that you can do that?

also i know it's a lot to ask but could you explain his rule as simply as possible? :P

[tex] \frac{\partial}{\partial z} \int^{b(z)}_{a(z)} f(x,z) dx = \int^{b(z)}_{a(z)} \frac{\partial f}{\partial z} dx + f(b(z),z) \frac{\partial b}{\partial z} - f(a(z),z) \frac{\partial a}{\partial z} [/tex]
(i didn't do THAT latex I found it on someone else's post :P)

i know I'm not taking university mathematics yet and it's unlikely that i'll need it until then however it's really bugging me and i'd like to be able to do it.

the trouble is, that the notation is extremely inaccessible (for me).

the part that's bugging me is that surely you want to define the integral you want/need in terms of other things, however on the left side you're also differentiating the integral you need, so it'll be in another form...(which you don't want)

OR, is this rule just proving that you CAN differentiate with respect to alpha (as in original question), by bringing it inside?

the notation is extremely scary, and also another rookie question but what does (a(z), z) mean? wouldn't that just mean ("a function of z", "including z")

sorry again, maybe I'm just way in over my head here.
 
Yes, it's saying that you can differentiate inside the integral. Just think of z as alpha. The other two terms on the RHS apply to cases where the limits also depend on alpha. You don't need them since your limits, 0 and infinity, don't depend on alpha. If your integral were from 0 to alpha^2, for example, you get a contribution from the db/dz (or db/dalpha) part where b(alpha)=alpha^2.
 

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