Integration by substitution for sin/cos products

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The integral of sin x (cos x)^3 can be approached using two different substitutions, u = cos x and u = sin x, leading to seemingly different results. However, both methods yield equivalent expressions differing only by a constant of integration. The first substitution results in -(1/4)(cos x)^4 + C, while the second yields (1/2)(sin x)^2 - (1/4)(sin x)^4 + C. By manipulating the expressions, it can be shown that they are indeed the same. This illustrates the nature of indefinite integrals, where multiple forms can represent the same function.
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Ok so I might be doing something silly but I just don't understand what is going on here. So the integral:

i = ∫ sin x (cos x)^3 dx

First I say u = cos x. So du = - sin x dx.

So now I have i = ∫ - u^3 du. Which gives: i = -(1/4)u^4 or -(1/4)(cos x)^4. Easy.

But if I say u = sin x instead, this is what happens:

So du = cos x dx. And I say i = ∫ sin x (cos x)^2 cos x dx.

So I have i = ∫ u(1 - u^2) du or i = ∫ (u - u^3) du. WHAT.

Why am I getting two different answers?? Which one is right and why?

Thanks!
 
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phoneketchup said:
Ok so I might be doing something silly but I just don't understand what is going on here. So the integral:

i = ∫ sin x (cos x)^3 dx

First I say u = cos x. So du = - sin x dx.

So now I have i = ∫ - u^3 du. Which gives: i = -(1/4)u^4 or -(1/4)(cos x)^4. Easy.
Actually, it doesn't. It gives -(1/4)(cos x)^4+ C for any constant C.

But if I say u = sin x instead, this is what happens:

So du = cos x dx. And I say i = ∫ sin x (cos x)^2 cos x dx.

So I have i = ∫ u(1 - u^2) du or i = ∫ (u - u^3) du. WHAT.

Why am I getting two different answers?? Which one is right and why?

Thanks!
You are not getting two different answers. The integral of "u- u^3" is (1/2)u^2- (1/4)u^4+ c which is equal to (1/2)(sin x)^2- (1/4)(sin x)^4+ c.

See what happens if you replace (sin x)^2 by 1- (cos x)^2 in that last formula.
 
Actually you get the same answer. In fact when you put u=\sin(x) you get <br /> \int u-u^3\,du=\frac{u^2}{2}-\frac{u^4}{4}+c=\frac{\sin(x)^2}{2}-\frac{\sin(x)^4}{4}+c<br />
now, if you work on the first result you got, you'll see that: <br /> -\frac{\cos(x)^4}{4}+c=-\frac{(\cos(x)^2)^2}{4}+c=-\frac{(1-\sin(x)^2)^2}{4}+c=\frac{\sin(x)^2}{2}-\frac{\sin(x)^4}{4}+\frac{1}{4}+c<br />
The two results are the same because it is an indefinite integral and they differ by an arbitrary constant. It could also have been solved without substitution noticing that \cos(x)^2=1-\sin(x)^2 and that D[f(g(x)]=f&#039;(g(x)) g&#039;(x)


Didn't realize we replied at the same time, sorry
 
Oops! I forgot to put the constant of integration. And yeah I see now.. it was pretty silly haha. Thanks! :)
 
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