Integration by Trig Substitution

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The discussion revolves around the integral \(\int^{1}_{0} \frac{3x^2 -1}{\sqrt{x-x^3}} dx\), which involves techniques of integration, particularly focusing on substitution methods, including trigonometric substitution and simpler substitutions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve the integral using trigonometric substitution but encounters difficulties in progressing further. Another participant suggests a simpler substitution, questioning the effectiveness of the trigonometric approach. There is a discussion about changing limits of integration and the implications of the integrand being undefined at certain points.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different substitution methods, with some expressing uncertainty about their approaches. There is acknowledgment of the complexity of the integral and the need to reconsider the setup, particularly regarding the limits of integration and the nature of the integrand.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that the integral may be improper due to the integrand being undefined at both limits of integration, and participants are discussing how this affects their calculations and interpretations.

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I've attempted solutions at this in two different manners and found myself stuck both ways. I'll show you the way that seems to make progress. The other way involves not factoring the junk under the radical in the denominator.

Homework Statement


\int^{1}_{0} \frac{3x^2 -1}{\sqrt{x-x^3}} dx




Homework Equations



For case \sqrt{a^2-x^2}, use substitution a*sin\theta.



The Attempt at a Solution



\int^{1}_{0} \frac{3x^2 -1}{\sqrt{x-x^3}} dx

= \int^{1}_{0} \frac{3x^2 -1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}\sqrt{x}} dx

Substitute: x = sin\theta, dx = cos\theta d\theta, bounds of 0 - 1 remain the same as sin 0 = 0 and sin 1 = 1.

\int^{1}_{0} \frac{3sin^2\theta -1}{\sqrt{cos^2\theta}\sqrt{sin\theta}} cos\theta d\theta


= \int^{1}_{0} \frac{3sin^2\theta -1}{cos\theta\sqrt{sin\theta}} d\theta



At this point I no longer know where to go. Factoring the numerator appeared to bear no fruit, no u substitutions make any sense to me at the moment.
 
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Trig substitution is the wrong way to go. A simple substitution will work here: u = x - x3. Note that the numerator is very close to du.
 
Oh my gosh, thank you. Made that way too hard on myself ;). I even thought about substituting using the 1-sin^2x inside the radical (instead of changing it to cos^2x) and it never occurred to me to look at the original question. Your help is very appreciated.
 
This changes my bounds to 0 and 0. Can I stop here and claim that the answer is 0?
 
MathHawk said:
This changes my bounds to 0 and 0. Can I stop here and claim that the answer is 0?

Yes you can

EDIT: Actually, on second thought for

\frac{3x^2-1}{\sqrt{x-x^3}}=0 \Rightarrow x= \pm \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}


Meaning that between 1 and 0 the curve passes through the x-axis, you would probably need to change from 1 to 0 to

\int ^{1} _{\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}} \frac{3x^2-1}{\sqrt{x-x^3}} dx + \left | \int ^{\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}} _{0} \frac{3x^2-1}{\sqrt{x-x^3}}dx \right |
 
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You can change the limits of integration as you were thinking, or you can leave them unchanged, integrate using the substitution, and then undo the substitution, and finally evaluate. When I do it this way, I remind myself that these are x limits by writing x = <whatever> for the lower limit of integration.
 
You should also note that this is an improper integral. The integrand is undefined at both limits of integration.
 

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