Integration by Trigonometric Substitution.

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \(\int_{1}^{e}\frac{dx}{x\sqrt{1+\ln^2x}}\) using trigonometric substitution. Participants are examining the steps involved in the substitution process and the resulting expressions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the substitution \(u = \ln x\) and the subsequent use of \(u = \tan(\theta)\). There are questions about the correctness of the final results and the limits of integration for \(\theta\). Some participants express confusion over the substitution process and the expressions derived from it.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of the problem with various participants questioning each other's steps and suggesting corrections. Some guidance has been offered regarding the substitution and the need to express secant in terms of tangent. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final expression.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through potential errors in substitution and the implications of changing limits of integration. There is an acknowledgment of the need to correct earlier steps without resolving the overall problem.

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I'm not sure about answer.It looks very strange.

Homework Statement



[tex]\int_{1}^{e}\frac{dx}{x\sqrt{1+ln^2x}}[/tex]





The Attempt at a Solution



for u=lnx-->u'=1/x
[tex]\int \frac{du}{\sqrt{1+u^2}}[/tex]
substituting [tex]u=tan\theta[/tex]

[tex]=\int \frac{d\theta}{cos\theta}=ln|sec\theta+tan\theta|[/tex]

[tex]\int_{1}^{e}\frac{dx}{x\sqrt{1+ln^2x}}=ln|\sqrt{-1}|[/tex]
 
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Your formula looks right but your final results isn't. Didn't you actually use u = tan(theta) ?

what limits do you get for theta?
 
I just put to the
[tex]ln|lnx+\sqrt{lnx-1}|[/tex]
 
azatkgz said:
I just put to the
[tex]ln|lnx+\sqrt{lnx-1}|[/tex]

Did you use u = tan(theta) or u = sec(theta) ?
 
Sorry i typed wrongly.I used u=tan(theta)
 
azatkgz said:
Sorry i typed wrongly.I used u=tan(theta)

ok. so this part is wrong

[tex]ln|lnx+\sqrt{lnx-1}|[/tex]

fix your substitution.
 
Express sec in terms of tan again.
 
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but if I change limits
[tex]\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}sec\theta d\theta=ln2[/tex]
 
I don't know what you just did, but continue as you were before, you had the right anti derivative: ln |tan O + sec O|, but you didn't replace the original variable back in properly for the sec O.
 
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Just use a "sinh" substitution when you're left only with the sqrt in the denominator and you're done.
 

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