Integration/Double Integrals Advice Required

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The discussion focuses on integrating the function f(x, y) = Sqrt(x^2 + y^2) over a specified region in the upper half-plane bounded by two circles. The user initially sketches the region and proposes limits for x and y, but seeks confirmation on their correctness and guidance on calculating the integral. Participants suggest using polar coordinates for simplification, noting that the function and region are circular, which makes the integration process easier. They also mention the need to consider different limits if using rectangular coordinates due to the boundaries of the circles. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the efficiency of polar coordinates for this integral.
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Hey, my Q is:

"Integrate f(x, y) = Sqrt(x^2 + y^2) over the region in the x-y plane bounded by the circles r = 1 and r = 4 in the upper half-plane".

Well, I firstly sketched out the region I get as my area in the x-y plane. I deduced that the ranges for x and y are:

0 <= x <= 4
Sqrt[1 - x^2] <= y <= Sqrt[16 - x^2]

1.) Is this right?
2.) How do I then calculate the integral of f(x, y) over this region? I know I'm doing a double integral but I don't see how I can separate my variables...

Thanks
 
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That integral is screaming polar coordinates! f(x,y)=r and the region is circular. It'll be really easy in polar coordinates.
 
There is no need to post every problem twice...
 
Use the polar coordinates where ds=r dr d(theta) or if you want to use rectangular use these limits

x 1 -> 4
y sqrt(1-x^2) -> sqrt(16-x^2)
 
If he wanted to use rectangular, he'd need to split it into 3 parts because when |x|>1, there is no inner circle anymore. So, as x goes from -4 => 1, 0 < y < sqrt(16-x^2), as x goes from -1 => 1, sqrt(1-x^2) < y < sqrt(16-x^2), and as x goes from 1 => 4, 0 < y < sqrt(16-x^2) again. Or he could do the whole half-disk of radius 4 and subtract the half-disc of radius one from it.
 
yes you are right, but i just ment that he could understand that in this example we can multiply my previous result with 2 to get the answer.
 
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