Integration of a Square Root including constants

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a square root function involving constants, specifically the integral of the expression 3 + 2√(1 - (x²/9)) with respect to x.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric substitution, particularly suggesting letting x = 3sin(s) to simplify the integral. There are attempts to clarify the substitution process and the resulting expressions that emerge from it.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the substitution method and the integration process, while others are exploring the implications of their substitutions and questioning the accuracy of their expressions. Multiple interpretations of the substitution and integration steps are being examined.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential mistakes in the substitution process, with participants pointing out errors in the expressions derived from the trigonometric substitution. The discussion reflects an ongoing exploration of these assumptions and the necessary adjustments to the integration approach.

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Jndue said:

Homework Statement



find

\int3+2\sqrt{1-\frac{x^{2}}{9}} <b>dx</b>

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Have tried multiple methods but none seem to work for me!

Have you tried trig substitution? let x = 3sin(s) and then substitute in... you should get an expression that you can integrate, after a few trig tricks of course.
 
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It's just an intuitive solution I look at when I see a square root like that. If you substitute it in, you get sqrt(1 - (3 sin2(s))/9), or sqrt(1 - sin2(s)). This, as we know, is equal to cos(s), which is easy to integrate. Then we just need to handle the dx...

But I think once you have x = 3 sin(s), dx should be easy to find. :)
 
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Jndue said:
so...y=3+2*sqrt(1-(x^2/9))

then... y=y=3+2*sqrt(1-(sin^2(s)/3)) yes?

after that what should occur?

You have a mistake at two places. The sin^2(s) should be (3 sin(s))^2 and the 3 needs to be a 9. Other than that, you're so-far good. After substituting, you should get an easy 3+2cos(s), which of course needs to be multiplied by dx. So while you're doing that, it might be a good idea to get dx in terms of ds.
 

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