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The discussion revolves around two integration problems involving trigonometric and algebraic functions. The first problem involves integrating a function that includes secant and sine terms, while the second problem focuses on using substitution to simplify an integral involving powers of x and square roots.

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  • Participants explore rewriting integrals and using trigonometric identities. Some suggest using substitution for the second problem, while others propose breaking down fractions into simpler components for integration.

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Some participants have offered guidance on recognizing trigonometric identities and breaking down integrals into manageable parts. There is ongoing exploration of different methods, with no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants express uncertainty about their approaches and seek clarification on mathematical notation and formatting. There is a mention of homework constraints and the need to adhere to specific problem setups.

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Homework Statement



Problem 1:
[PLAIN]http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3852/problem1m.jpg

Problem 2:
[PLAIN]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3862/problem3i.jpg


2. The attempt at a solution

Prob. 1:

Well for this one I rewrote the integral first.

\int sec(x)(1-sin^2(x))dx

Then I distributed the sec(x) term.

\int sec(x)-sec(x)sin^2(x)dx

I'm stuck here :(

Prob. 2:

I think I'm supposed to use u-sub here.

Let u = \sqrt{x}
du = \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}dx
Then solve for dx = 2\sqrt{x}du

Plug in for dx and you get:

\int (8x^2+2)(2\sqrt{x})(du)

I'm really not sure if this is what's supposed to happen...

Thanks,
fm
 
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FallingMan said:
Prob. 1:

Well for this one I rewrote the integral first.

∫sec(x) * (1-sin^2(x)) dx

Then I distributed the sec(x) term.

∫sec(x) - sec(x)*sin^2(x) dx

I'm stuck here :(
You're thinking too hard. Do you remember your trig identities? What does
1 - \sin^2 x equal?

FallingMan said:
Prob. 2:

I think I'm supposed to use u-sub here.

Let u = sqrt(x), du = 1/2sqrt(x)dx
Then solve for dx = 2sqrt*du

Plug in for dx and you get:

∫(8x^2+2)*(2sqrt)*du

I'm really not sure if this is what's supposed to happen...

Thanks,
fm
Instead of doing that, write the fraction as a sum of two fractions:
\int \frac{8x^2 + 2}{\sqrt{x}} dx = \int \left( \frac{8x^2}{\sqrt{x}} + \frac{2}{\sqrt{x}} \right) dx = \int \frac{8x^2}{\sqrt{x}} dx + \int \frac{2}{\sqrt{x}} dx
... and integrate the fractions separately.
 
eumyang said:
You're thinking too hard. Do you remember your trig identities? What does
1 - \sin^2 x equal?

Okay, I just looked it up. 1-sin^2(x) is equivalent to cos^2(x), right? That makes it easier then..

\int \frac{cos^2(x)}{cos(x)}dx = \int cos(x)dx = sin(x) + C

:)?

Instead of doing that, write the fraction as a sum of two fractions:
\int \frac{8x^2 + 2}{\sqrt{x}} dx = \int \frac{8x^2}{\sqrt{x}}[ + \frac{2}{\sqrt{x}} dx
... and integrate the fractions separately.

Okay so first part would be...

\frac{16}{5}x^\frac{5}{2}

and second part would be...

4\sqrt{x}

So, adding them gives \frac{16}{5}x^\frac{5}{2}+4x^\frac{1}{2} + C

Thank for for the help (I hope I did them right O_o)

By the way, how do you make the nice math symbols in your post? Any guide to how to do that?

EDIT: I think I got how to do it by viewing the edit options..
 
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#1 is right.

#2 is also right, but to nitpick, I personally don't like seeing an expression with fractional exponents and radicals mixed together. I would state the answer as
\frac{16}{5}x^{5/2} + 4x^{1/2} + C
(and don't forget the C! :wink:)

EDIT: It's good that you're trying LaTex, but you got some errors. Check the code I used. As for a guide, you could look "ftp://ftp.ams.org/pub/tex/doc/amsmath/short-math-guide.pdf"[/URL].
 
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eumyang said:
#1 is right.

#2 is also right, but to nitpick, I personally don't like seeing an expression with fractional exponents and radicals mixed together. I would state the answer as
\frac{16}{5}x^{5/2} + 4x^{1/2} + C
(and don't forget the C! :wink:)

EDIT: It's good that you're trying LaTex, but you got some errors. Check the code I used. As for a guide, you could look "ftp://ftp.ams.org/pub/tex/doc/amsmath/short-math-guide.pdf"[/URL].[/QUOTE]

Thank for your help - I'm a real math noob so I might make another thread b/c I may have some more questions, lol.

I might also edit this post to try some equations and things out. :)
 
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