Integration question involving square root

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To integrate the equations dx/dt = √(k/x - 1) and dx/dt = √(k/x + 1), a suitable substitution is necessary, with suggestions leaning towards trigonometric methods. Participants emphasize the importance of attempting various substitutions and expressing the integrals in simpler forms to facilitate the integration process. It is recommended to derive the integrals from first principles or consult tables of integrals for guidance. The discussion highlights the need for self-initiative in problem-solving to enhance learning. Overall, approaching the problem with different strategies is crucial for finding the appropriate solution.
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Homework Statement



How to integrate

## \frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{\frac{k}{x}-1}##

AND

## \frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{\frac{k}{x}+1}##

k a constant here.

I'm unsure what substitution to do.
Many thanks in advance.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I can't really get started as I'm unsure what substition is needed.
I think a trig but don't know what?many thanks in advance.
 
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binbagsss said:

Homework Statement



How to integrate

## \frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{\frac{k}{x}-1}##

AND

## \frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{\frac{k}{x}+1}##

k a constant here.

I'm unsure what substitution to do.
Many thanks in advance.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I can't really get started as I'm unsure what substition is needed.
I think a trig but don't know what?many thanks in advance.

You need to show more effort. Just try lots of different things. Some of them will be a wast of time, but others should work. Trying it on your own first is the only way to learn.
 
Try expressing your integrals in a form that can be found in a table of integrals. It took me two minutes to find the answer to your question. If you are supposed to derive your answer from first principles, at least you will have something to work towards.
 
Fred Wright said:
Try expressing your integrals in a form that can be found in a table of integrals. It took me two minutes to find the answer to your question. If you are supposed to derive your answer from first principles, at least you will have something to work towards.

I've been warned already. cheers for the input though my good pal ;)
 
binbagsss said:
I can't really get started
A good start would be to write as an integral, in as simple a form as you can, instead of leaving it as a differential equation.
Next, look for a substitution that gets k out of the way. Then think about a trig substitution.
 
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