Interatomic coulombic potential

[Hypatio]

I am trying to calculate coulombic potentials. The equation given in wikipedia is

$$F=k_e\frac{q_{1}q_{2}}{r^2}$$

where k_e is in units of N m^2 C^-2, q are the partial charges, and r is the distance.

However, I look here and they give k_e=2.31*10^19 and remove the square of the distance. I assume that the difference is related to the units, which is in J*nm in this other resource, but if k_e is a constant then how can an equation of the form 1/r^2 give the same answer as one with the form 1/r?

Also, is the given value of k_e (2.31*10^19 J*nm) very accurate? What is the more accurate value?

 

[tiny-tim]

Hi Hypatio!

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I am trying to calculate coulombic potentials.
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However, I look here and they give k_e=2.31*10¹⁹ and remove the square of the distance. I assume that the difference is related to the units, which is in J*nm in this other resource, but if k_e is a constant then how can an equation of the form 1/r²give the same answer as one with the form 1/r?

the force is ~ 1/r²

the potential is ~ 1/r

Also, is the given value of k_e (2.31*10¹⁹ J*nm) very accurate? What is the more accurate value?

i don't recognise that figure

the usual constant in Coulomb's law is 8.988 x 10⁹ N m²/C²

(or 8.987 551 787 368 176 4, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb's_law#The_law)

 

[nasu]

I am trying to calculate coulombic potentials. The equation given in wikipedia is

$$F=k_e\frac{q_{1}q_{2}}{r^2}$$

where k_e is in units of N m^2 C^-2, q are the partial charges, and r is the distance.

However, I look here and they give k_e=2.31*10^19 and remove the square of the distance. I assume that the difference is related to the units, which is in J*nm in this other resource, but if k_e is a constant then how can an equation of the form 1/r^2 give the same answer as one with the form 1/r?

Also, is the given value of k_e (2.31*10^19 J*nm) very accurate? What is the more accurate value?

The formula in the paper is for energy and not for force:
$$E=k_e\frac{q_{1}q_{2}}{r}$$
The numerical constant comes from the units: they use the numerical charge (number of electron charges) and not the charge in coulombs.
They also use the distance in nm.
So the number you see is

$$k_e\times e^2\times 10^9$$

 

[Hypatio]

Thanks!

What is the difference between the partial charge and the 'numerical charge'? Also, what is the parameter e?

 

[nasu]

Numerical charge is the charge in units of elementary (electron charge).
e is the value of the elementary charge (1.6x10^(-19) C).