Introduction to Topological Manifolds by John Lee (prereqs)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the prerequisites for studying "Introduction to Topological Manifolds" by John Lee, particularly focusing on whether individuals with a background in applied mathematics can effectively engage with the material despite gaps in their knowledge of certain mathematical concepts and theorems. Participants share their experiences and insights regarding the book's accessibility and self-contained nature.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about their forgotten details in mathematics, such as theorems and definitions, and question if they can study the book while looking up necessary information as needed.
  • Others argue that the book is self-contained and provides sufficient background material in its appendix, making it accessible even for those without extensive formal proof-based math courses.
  • A participant mentions that while the book has minimal prerequisites, it is still challenging and should not be underestimated.
  • There are inquiries about pacing for casual self-study and the balance between studying this book and other subjects.
  • Some participants seek to compare the difficulty of this book to that of real analysis texts, such as the one by Ross.
  • Questions arise regarding the time commitment needed to complete the book and its usefulness for understanding physics concepts involving manifolds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the book is accessible with minimal prerequisites, but there is no consensus on the best pacing for study or the comparison of its difficulty to other texts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific time commitment and its impact on understanding related physics topics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence in their mathematical backgrounds and the specific details they remember, which may affect their ability to engage with the text. There is also a lack of clarity on the exact prerequisites needed for effective study.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering self-study of topology or those with a background in applied mathematics looking to bridge gaps in their knowledge may find this discussion relevant.

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I'm interested in this subject. This is a graduate text and I believe the prereqs are mostly a math degree, which I somewhat have(B.S in Applied Math from a few years back). The thing is, I forgot details about things. For example, I know how to do an epsilon delta proof and can read one when presented, but I don't remember the particular theorems/definitions( uniform convergence, ratiotests etc), I remember the philosophy behind a vector space/subspace of linear algebra, but I don't remember all the details of factorizations of matricies, all the theorems etc.

Is it possible to study this book while just looking up the needed details on the side as I go along?
 
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Yes, it is definitely possible. I read much of this book and worked through a considerable portion of the problems before finishing my physics degree. It is pretty self contained, it even has an appendix with some prereq. results from set theory, metric spaces and group theory. The presentation of the material in the book is also really very good, it provides a lot of motivation for the theory.
 
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FallenApple said:
I'm interested in this subject. This is a graduate text and I believe the prereqs are mostly a math degree, which I somewhat have(B.S in Applied Math from a few years back). The thing is, I forgot details about things. For example, I know how to do an epsilon delta proof and can read one when presented, but I don't remember the particular theorems/definitions( uniform convergence, ratiotests etc), I remember the philosophy behind a vector space/subspace of linear algebra, but I don't remember all the details of factorizations of matricies, all the theorems etc.

Is it possible to study this book while just looking up the needed details on the side as I go along?

Don't worry, you're fine. The book is extremely good, and the best thing is that it requires very very little prereqs. I have guided multiple people through this excellent book, most of which never had any formal proof-based math courses. Everything you need is detailed in the appendix which you should read first and should be pretty well-known to you. Don't make a mistake though, the book is not easy, it just has very little prereqs.
 
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micromass said:
Don't worry, you're fine. The book is extremely good, and the best thing is that it requires very very little prereqs. I have guided multiple people through this excellent book, most of which never had any formal proof-based math courses. Everything you need is detailed in the appendix which you should read first and should be pretty well-known to you. Don't make a mistake though, the book is not easy, it just has very little prereqs.

Thanks. Do you have any suggestions on how I should pace myself? This is mostly for casual self study.

I don't want to put so much time that wouldn't be able to work/study other subjects. But at the same time, putting in very little daily time really wouldn't make it stick.

How hard is this compared to say, real analysis on the level of Ross?
 
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Yes, it is definitely possible. I read much of this book and worked through a considerable portion of the problems before finishing my physics degree. It is pretty self contained, it even has an appendix with some prereq. results from set theory, metric spaces and group theory. The presentation of the material in the book is also really very good, it provides a lot of motivation for the theory.

Thanks for the input. How much time did take you to get through the book? Was it helpful for understanding physics that uses manifolds?
 

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