Introductory physics textbook for a math student

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This discussion focuses on selecting introductory physics textbooks suitable for mathematically inclined students with no prior physics knowledge. Recommended texts include "Fundamentals of Physics" by Shankar and "Concepts of Modern Physics" by Beiser, which balance mathematical rigor with intuitive understanding. The importance of problem-solving is emphasized, with suggestions to supplement reading with problem books such as those by Morin and Verma. Additionally, resources like OpenStax and Yale's Open Courses are highlighted for supplementary exercises.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of calculus and basic mathematical concepts
  • Familiarity with problem-solving techniques in physics
  • Knowledge of mathematical rigor and analysis
  • Interest in advanced topics like general relativity and quantum field theory (QFT)
NEXT STEPS
  • Explore "Fundamentals of Physics" by Shankar for a comprehensive introduction
  • Study "Concepts of Modern Physics" by Beiser for modern physics concepts
  • Practice problem-solving with "Physics" by Morin and "Problems in General Physics" by Verma
  • Utilize resources from Yale's Open Courses for exercises related to Shankar's texts
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Mathematics students transitioning to physics, educators seeking rigorous yet intuitive teaching materials, and anyone interested in building a strong foundation in physics leading to advanced topics like general relativity and QFT.

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Let's start off by assuming that I know no physics at all.

I am looking for an introductory physics book that is mathematically rigorous, but doesn't let formalism and rigor get in the way of intuition. My goal is to start from the "beginning" of physics and eventually reach general relativity and QFT. I have the mathematical background to handle any introductory physics textbook, so don't hold back.

What options do I have?
 
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Don't let your 'handicap' be a hindrance. Any physics book (well, almost) is good enough: the rigour of math analysis is generally overkill for the functions we encounter in physics, so we skim over the math details. Until they become important, and by then they are at your level anyway.
 
JonnyG said:
Let's start off by assuming that I know no physics at all.

I am looking for an introductory physics book that is mathematically rigorous, but doesn't let formalism and rigor get in the way of intuition. My goal is to start from the "beginning" of physics and eventually reach general relativity and QFT. I have the mathematical background to handle any introductory physics textbook, so don't hold back.

What options do I have?

Drop the mathematical rigour. It's not helpful at all. Sure, once you know the relevant physics, you can think about how to rigorize it. And you can read very rigorous books on the topic that are really fun to read. But if you know NO physics at all, then mathematical rigour will just get in the way. Take it from somebody who loves mathematical rigor and is learning physics on the side.

That said, there are plenty of books that don't "botch" the math and treat it respectfully. Still, they will talk about infinitesimals, and do maybe questionable things. So I recommend such a book. If you want, I can provide many good reference I found very helpful as a mathematician.

Most important is to do as much problems as you can. This is essential. I thought I could get away with a good math knowledge. But I couldn't. You need to spend a lot of time thinking about problems.
 
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robphy said:

Very good books, but if you NEVER saw physics before, I would not do those books just yet. I highly recommend the books from the mechanical universe, supplemented with the problem book from Morin and the Newtonian mechanics book from French. Those are very good starters.

Then I would go to Kleppner, and Gregory to do mechanics from a more advanced point of view.
 
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I think I will go with the books written by Shankar. Is it suggested that I go through each book in a linear fashion?
 
JonnyG said:
Thanks for the replies everyone. I think I will go with the books written by Shankar. Is it suggested that I go through each book in a linear fashion?
Linear works. Be aware of the fact that these books do not have any problems. For practicing problems, you would need different books (covering much of the same topics as Shankar). The other two of my favorites are:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/8177091875/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/8177092324/?tag=pfamazon01-20


If money is not an issue (the books are not very expensive), see if you can get both Verma and Shankar. Shankar is very well written and explained and Verma covers the topics from problem-solving point of view.
 
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You might also check out Open Education Resources (OER) for free physics textbooks. Openstax is one resource. There are a bunch of others.

http://openstaxcollege.org
 

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