Introductory Quantum Mechanics exercise.

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The discussion revolves around solving an introductory quantum mechanics exercise involving a Hamiltonian and the states of a particle. Participants work through finding an orthonormal basis, eigenvalues, and eigenstates of a projector, as well as the time evolution of a wave function. Key points include the correct identification of eigenvalues as 0 and 1 for the projector, and the realization that the probabilities of measurement outcomes must sum to 1, reflecting the completeness of the Hilbert space. The conversation also touches on the implications of measuring spin components and the necessity of normalizing state vectors to ensure accurate probability calculations. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of understanding quantum state representations and measurement outcomes in quantum mechanics.
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Homework Statement


We describe particle's movement with the Hamiltonian:
H=- \frac{\Delta E}{2} |0\rangle \langle0| + \frac{\Delta E}{2} |1\rangle \langle1|,

where |0\rangle and |1\rangle are the ortonormal basis. Let:
|a\rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}|0\rangle +\frac{i}{\sqrt{2}} |1\rangle.

a) Find |b\rangle state, so that it would form orthonormal basis of a Hilbert space with |a\rangle.
b) Find eigenvalues and eigenstates of a projector P_b=|b \rangle \langle b|.
c) Let a particle be in an |a \rangle state at t=0. Find the time evolution of a wave function.
d) At t>0 we do a measurement of an operatorP_b. What are possible results of a measurement and what are their chances?

The Attempt at a Solution


a) We can write:
|b \rangle = A |0 \rangle + B |1 \rangle\\ \langle a|b \rangle=0 \\ \langle b|b \rangle=1.
We get:
A=iB \\ |A|^2 + |B|^2=1,
and finally:
|b \rangle = \frac{i}{\sqrt{2}} |0 \rangle +\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} |1 \rangle.

b) I am not sure what to do here? Do I have to use a projector on states?
P_b |b \rangle =|b \rangle \langle b|b \rangle
I get only b state (because \langle b|b \rangle=1) as an eigenfunction (?), but I'm not sure what are the eigenvalues then?
P_b |a \rangle =0c) | a,t \rangle = e^{-i \frac{H}{\hbar} t} | a,0 \rangle \\ H|0\rangle=-\frac{\Delta E}{2} |0\rangle \\ H|1\rangle= \frac{\Delta E}{2} |1\rangle \\ | a,t \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} e^{i \frac{\Delta E}{2 \hbar} t} |0 \rangle + \frac{i}{\sqrt{2}} e^{-i \frac{\Delta E}{2 \hbar} t} |1 \rangle
Is this OK?

d) Here, I have got some problems. I am thinking - we can get 0, if the wave function is still in |a\rangle state or (I don't know what) if the wave function gets into |b\rangle state.
But on the other hand I think here must be something with |0\rangle and |1\rangle states, so that I use only square of absolute values of coefficients from c) for their chances (which are 50:50?).

Thank you for your answers.
 
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Your part a) seems to be correct, although you've ignored a potential phase factor, making the general solution for |b\rangle=\frac{i}{\sqrt 2} e^{i\phi}+\frac{1}{\sqrt 2}e^{i\phi} (not -really- an issue, just being pedantic here).

For part b), you're on the right track: if P_b |b\rangle=|b\rangle, what does that tell you about the eigenvalues and the eigenvectors (hint: it's almost trivial)? A similar conclusion can be obtained from P_b|a\rangle=0.

Part c) looks good.

Regarding the last part, I think you can just rewrite state |a,t\rangle in terms of states |a,0\rangle and |b,0\rangle instead, and then apply the projector to it and see which coefficients you obtain.
 
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a) Ok, but what does this phase factor mean? I imagine those two states |a\rangle and |b\rangle in a plane, and they are perpendicular (like x and y-axis in coordinate plane). Does this only mean that they are randomly directed in a plane like on the next pic?
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b) I think I have got problems with this precisely because it is trivial and don't really understand what are eigenvalues and -vectors of such kind of operators. :)
From the definition of an eigenvector and eigenvalue (A v=\lambda v, where A is operator, v is eigenvector and \lambda is eigenvalue), I would say that in our case P_b |b\rangle=|b\rangle, eigenvalue is 1 and eigenvector is |b\rangle and in P_b|a\rangle=0 eigenvalue is 0 and eigenvector still |a\rangle? Or vector \vec{0}?

d) Big thanks! I rewrited:
| a,t \rangle = A |a,0 \rangle + B |b,0 \rangle \\ =\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(A+iB)|0 \rangle +\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (iA+B)|1 \rangle,
from which I nicely get:
| a,t \rangle = \cos(\frac{\Delta E}{2 \hbar}t) |a,0 \rangle + \sin(\frac{\Delta E}{2 \hbar}t) |b,0 \rangle
If I now apply P_b to this, I get:
P_b |a,t\rangle=0 |a,0\rangle + \sin(\frac{\Delta E}{2 \hbar}t) |b,0 \rangle.
So the results of a measurement are 0 or sine?
Chances are just squares of absolute values of coefficients in |a,t\rangle and the wave function collapses to the measured state?
 
An absolute phase has no physical significance, it's a sort of a redundancy in the description of the state, and doesn't influence any observables, that is, expectation values of hermitian operators. However, a relative phase difference between states can be detected: see for instance the Aharonov-Bohm effect (Sakurai - Modern quantum mechanics (2010), ch. 2.7 has some info).

You are right for part b), the eigenvalues of the operator are just 0 and 1, and the eigenvectors are |a\rangle and |b\rangle respectively (for the first one just note that P_b|a\rangle=0\cdot |a\rangle). Note that the null vector cannot be an eigenvector by definition, since any linear map acting on it would result in 0 trivially.

The last part is right, but it seems a bit strange that the probabilities do not add up to 1 at all times. However, the operator in question is a projector, so given a basis of a Hilbert space denoted as |c_i\rangle, the completeness relation is \sum\limits_i|c_i\rangle\langle c_i|=1, in your case being |a\rangle\langle a|+|b\rangle\langle b|=1, so nothing is violated, see Sakurai ch. 1.3 for more details.
 
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kontejnjer said:
it seems a bit strange that the probabilities do not add up to 1 at all times.
Why? Isn't the sum of squares of sine and cosine in | a,t \rangle always 1?
Thank you!

Another question.
We've got a free particle with spin 1/2. We mesure z-component of its spin and get \frac{\hbar}{2}.
a) After this, we measure the x-component, too. What are possible results and what are their probabilities?
b) What if we measure the component of its spin at angle \theta about z axis?

a) I am not sure here. Firstly, I would say that its spin wave function collapses after first measurement in z component so then we get 0 with 100%, but in other hand if we use S_x operator, we get something:
S_x |\uparrow \rangle = \frac{S_++S_-}{2} |\uparrow \rangle = \frac{\hbar}{2} |\downarrow \rangle

b) At lectures we said:
| \psi \rangle = \cos(\frac{\theta}{2}) |\uparrow \rangle + \sin(\frac{\theta}{2}) e^{i \phi} |\downarrow \rangle
 
gasar8 said:
a) After this, we measure the x-component, too. What are possible results and what are their probabilities?
Are you familiar with working with Pauli matrices? If yes, you can first try to find the eigenvectors of ##\sigma_x## in the basis of eigenvectors of ##\sigma_z##.
 
OK.
<br /> \sigma_{x} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; 1\\<br /> 1 &amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)\\<br /> \sigma_{3} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1 &amp; 0\\<br /> 0 &amp; -1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />
So, the eigenvectors of \sigma_x are x_1=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc} <br /> 1\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> and x_2=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc} <br /> -1\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />. The eigenvectors of\sigma_z are x_3=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc} <br /> 1\\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> and x_4=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc} <br /> 0\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />.
So if I write eigenvectors of \sigma_x in the basis of eigenvectors of \sigma_z, I get:
x_1=x_3+x_4\\x_2=-x_3+x_4.
What does these eigenvectors tell me?
 
gasar8 said:
OK.
<br /> \sigma_{x} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 &amp; 1\\<br /> 1 &amp; 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)\\<br /> \sigma_{3} = \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1 &amp; 0\\<br /> 0 &amp; -1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />
So, the eigenvectors of \sigma_x are x_1=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> and x_2=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}<br /> -1\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />. The eigenvectors of\sigma_z are x_3=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1\\<br /> 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br /> and x_4=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />.
So if I write eigenvectors of \sigma_x in the basis of eigenvectors of \sigma_z, I get:
x_1=x_3+x_4\\x_2=-x_3+x_4.
What does these eigenvectors tell me?
Almost correct, you just forgot that a state vector must be normalized. After normalizing them, express ##x_3## (not ##x_4## because initially the state is known to be corresponding to the eigenvalue ##\hbar/2##) in terms of ##x_1## and ##x_2##. This will allow you to calculate the probability of obtaining the probabilities of the measurement as mentioned in your problem statement.
 
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So
x_1={1 \over \sqrt{2}}<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}<br /> 1\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right) and
x_2={1 \over \sqrt{2}}<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}<br /> -1\\<br /> 1<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right). From this, I get:
x_3={1 \over 2} x_1 - {1 \over 2} x_2.

So, if I understand this correctly, possible results of a x-component measurement are again \pm \frac{\hbar}{2} with the probabilities of square of the coefficients, so both with \frac{1}{4} chance.
blue_leaf77 said:
express x_3 (not x_4 because initially the state is known to be corresponding to the eigenvalue ℏ/2) in terms of x1 and x_2.
Aha, so I would use x_4 if the result of a measurement would be -\hbar \over 2 which is the other eigenvalue?
But why do I have to express x_3 with x_1 and x_2? -->
blue_leaf77 said:
If yes, you can first try to find the eigenvectors of σx in the basis of eigenvectors of σz.
Do I just understand this wrong? Because I first expressed just the opposite. :)
 
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gasar8 said:
x_3={1 \over 2} x_1 - {1 \over 2} x_2.
The coefficients are still off although their ratio is correct, remember any state vector must be normalized - the sum of the modulus square of each coefficient must add up to unity.
gasar8 said:
Aha, so I would use x4x4x_4 if the result of a measurement would be −ℏ2−ℏ2 -\hbar \over 2 which is the other eigenvalue?
Yes.
gasar8 said:
But why do I have to express x3x3x_3 with x1x1x_1 and x2x2x_2? -->
Because you want to measure ##S_x## and the only possible outcomes are given by its eigenvalues. Therefore, you need to know how ##x_3## (the initial state) looks like when expressed in the basis of eigenvectors of ##S_x## (or ##\sigma_x##).
gasar8 said:
Do I just understand this wrong? Because I first expressed just the opposite. :)
No you didn't do something wrong. It's just because the most Pauli matrices are written in the basis of eigenvectors of ##\sigma_z##. Therefore, when you calculated the eigenvectors of ##\sigma_x## in this form you will automatically get these eigenvectors in basis of eigenvectors of ##\sigma_z##.
 
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