Inverse function containing square root

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The discussion focuses on finding the inverse of the function f(x) = -x² - 2x + 3 for x < -1 and clarifying the notation between function composition and multiplication. The user successfully derives the inverse function as f⁻¹(x) = -1 - √(4 - x) but struggles with the substitution to show that f⁻¹(f(x)) = x. A key point raised is the importance of recognizing the absolute value in the expression, which affects the outcome. Additionally, the distinction between the notation f⁻¹f (product) and f⁻¹∘f (composition) is emphasized to avoid confusion in mathematical operations. Understanding these concepts is crucial for correctly solving the problem.
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Homework Statement



Given f(x) = -x2 - 2x + 3, x < -1

Find f-1.
Find f-1f.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Actually I worked out much of the question already, and I already know that f-1f: x -> x. The problem is, I can't seem to get f-1f(x) = x on substitution. Here goes:

Let y = -x2 - 2x + 3
4 - y = (x+1)2
x = - 1 +/- sqrt(4-y)

Since the domain of f is the range of f-1, we have

f-1: x -> -1 - sqrt(4-x), x < 4

Consider f-1(x) = -1 - sqrt(4-x)
Substituting f(x),
f-1(f(x)) = -1 - sqrt(x2+2x+1) = -x-2

OK, here's the problem. I know I will get f-1f(x)= x if sqrt(x2+2x+1) = -x-1 and I understand that

x2+2x+1 = (x+1)2 = (-x-1)2

but my reasoning here doesn't reject -x-2 as a valid answer. Where is the mistake in my working?
 
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ephedyn said:
Substituting f(x),
f-1(f(x)) = -1 - sqrt(x2+2x+1) = -x-2

This is not correct.
-1 - \sqrt{x^2 + 2x + 1} = -1 - \sqrt{(x+1)^2} = -1 - |x + 1|
Since the domain of f^{-1}\circ f is the same as the domain of f, giving only negative values for the expression in the absolute value function, there is only one branch of the absolute value function in use, which should allow you to derive the correct identity.
 
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Ahhh I totally forgot about the modulus. Thanks a lot!
 
ephedyn said:

Homework Statement



Given f(x) = -x2 - 2x + 3, x < -1

Find f-1f.
Another point that should be mentioned has to do with your notation. f-1f means the product of the inverse and the original function. That's different from the composition of the two functions, which is represented this way:

f^{-1}\circ f

The composition of these two functions is defined this way:
(f^{-1}\circ f)(x) = f-1(f(x))
 
Mark44 said:
Another point that should be mentioned has to do with your notation. f-1f means the product of the inverse and the original function. That's different from the composition of the two functions, which is represented this way:

f^{-1}\circ f

The composition of these two functions is defined this way:
(f^{-1}\circ f)(x) = f-1(f(x))

Actually, I've seen the circle notation in some texts and product notation in other texts to reflect their relation to real number multiplication as is done in abstract algebra. The circle notation is not required.
 
slider142 said:
Actually, I've seen the circle notation in some texts and product notation in other texts to reflect their relation to real number multiplication as is done in abstract algebra. The circle notation is not required.

In abstract algebra you have structures such as groups in which you have a set of objects and an operation. The operation can be normal addition or multiplication, or can be function composition. In any case, the operation is well-understood.

If you're working with functions gf usually means the product of two functions, while g\circ f normally means function composition. To avoid confusing the two operations, a small circle is usually used. That was my point.
 
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