So, for tanh(ax),y = tanh(ax)x = tanh-1yx = (tanh-1y)/a

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The discussion revolves around deriving a formula for the hyperbolic tangent function using the derivative of the inverse hyperbolic tangent. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach and results, seeking clarification on their derivation process.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the hyperbolic tangent from the inverse hyperbolic tangent, using integration and logarithmic properties. They question the correctness of their steps and results, particularly regarding the presence of a factor of 1/a in their final expression.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's derivation, providing feedback on specific steps and questioning the validity of certain manipulations. There is a recognition of potential errors in the multiplication process and the handling of logarithmic expressions, with some participants suggesting alternative approaches.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the equality of certain fractions derived during the discussion, as well as the implications of absolute values in logarithmic expressions. Participants are also considering the effects of integrating and the assumptions made in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Now, I decided for no real reason to derive a formula for the hyperbolic tangent using only what I know about the derivative of the inverse hyperbolic tangent. However, what I have looks wrong, and I'd like to check it here.


Homework Equations


\frac{d tanh^{-1}\left(ax\right)}{dx} = \frac{a}{1-\left(ax\right)^2}

\frac{1}{1-u^2} = \frac{1}{2} \left(\frac{1}{u+1} - \frac{1}{u-1}\right)

The Attempt at a Solution



So, I started with the derivative, of course...

\int \frac{a}{1-\left(ax\right)^2} dx

I did a quick u-substitution, with u = a x and du = a dx:

\int \frac{1}{1-u^2} du

I used the second equation in part 2, which I derived separately:

\frac{1}{2} \left( \int \frac{du}{u+1} - \int \frac{du}{u-1} \right)

Next came the actual integration, of course...

\frac{1}{2} \left( log\left(u+1\right) - log\left(u-1\right) \right)

I rearranged with the logarithmic rules and resubsituted ax to get...

\frac{1}{2} log\left(\frac{ax+1}{ax-1}\right)

Now, this should be the formula for the inverse hyperbolic tangent. So, if I set this equal to y, and then solve for x, I should have the formula for the hyperbolic tangent, right?

\frac{1}{2} log\left(\frac{ax+1}{ax-1}\right) = y

Rearranging to isolate the logarithm...

log\left(\frac{ax+1}{ax-1}\right) = 2y

And now I raise e to both sides to remove the logarithm.

\frac{ax+1}{ax-1} = e^{2y}

Now, I'll multiply both sides by ax-1 (why not, what else can I do?), and see what happens. Note that from here I'm pretty much doing this as I write.

a^2 x^2 - 1 = a e^{2y} x - e^{2y}

I'll rearrange to set the right side equal to zero...

a^2 x^2 + \left(-a e^{2y}\right) x + \left(e^{2y} - 1\right) = 0

Now I tried to use the quadratic formula to solve this, which is probably where I went wrong...

x = \frac{a e^{2y} \pm \sqrt{a^2 e^{4y} - 4 a^2 e^{2y} + 4 a^2}}{2 a^2}

Simplifying the radical slightly by pulling out the a, I get...

x = \frac{a\left( e^{2y} \pm \sqrt{e^{4y} - 4 e^{2y} + 4}\right)}{2 a^2}

So, the a's will cancel, and then I recognize the radical as a perfect square...

x = \frac{e^{2y} \pm \sqrt{\left(e^{2y} - 2\right)^2}}{2a}

And now I'll cancel the square and square root and split this into two equations...

x= \frac{e^{2y} + e^{2y} - 2}{2a} OR x = \frac{e^{2y} - e^{2y} + 2}{2a}

And then I'll simplify that.

x = \frac{e^{2y} - 1}{a} OR x = \frac{1}{a}

Now, neither of those seem right. What did I do wrong?
 
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Char. Limit said:
And now I raise e to both sides to remove the logarithm.

\frac{ax+1}{ax-1} = e^{2y}

Now, I'll multiply both sides by ax-1 (why not, what else can I do?), and see what happens. Note that from here I'm pretty much doing this as I write.

a^2 x^2 - 1 = a e^{2y} x - e^{2y}

You multiplied the left side by ax-1 twice instead of once to get rid of just the denominator.
 
Bohrok said:
You multiplied the left side by ax-1 twice instead of once to get rid of just the denominator.

Oh, wow, I feel like an idiot now.

So, if we do it the right way instead (why not, right?), this is what I come up with...

ax+1 = a e^{2y} x - e^{2y}

That's much easier to solve than the complicated quadratic I was working on earlier... Let's put all the x terms to one side and all of the constants to the other...

ax - a e^{2y} x = -1 - e^{2y}

Multiply by -1...

a e^{2y} x - ax = e^{2y} + 1

Factor out the ax...

ax\left(e^{2y} - 1\right) = e^{2y} + 1

Divide and conquer!

x = \frac{1}{a} \left( \frac{e^{2y} + 1}{e^{2y} - 1} \right)

That still doesn't seem right though... is that 1/a supposed to be there? I don't think that's supposed to be there...
 
I think that 1/a does belong there. Apparently
\frac{e^{2y} + 1}{e^{2y} - 1} = \frac{1 + e^{2y}}{1 - e^{2y}}

and this is what I'm trying to figure out. The second "version" comes from writing 1/(1 - u2) as
\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{1}{1 + u} + \frac{1}{1 - u}\right) \text{instead of } \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{1}{u + 1} - \frac{1}{u - 1}\right)
The second one is valid, but using the first one easily works out to the formula for tanh(x) with the exponentials. I don't know why, but it's tricky...

[Edit] I hope those first two fractions are equal, I could have been too tired last night and missed something. I'll take a look at it again later.
 
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Bohrok said:
I think that 1/a does belong there. Apparently
\frac{e^{2y} + 1}{e^{2y} - 1} = \frac{1 + e^{2y}}{1 - e^{2y}}
Not true. Each one is the negative of the other.
Bohrok said:
and this is what I'm trying to figure out. The second "version" comes from writing 1/(1 - u2) as
\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{1}{1 + u} + \frac{1}{1 - u}\right) \text{instead of } \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{1}{u + 1} - \frac{1}{u - 1}\right)
The second one is valid, but using the first one easily works out to the formula for tanh(x) with the exponentials. I don't know why, but it's tricky...

[Edit] I hope those first two fractions are equal, I could have been too tired last night and missed something. I'll take a look at it again later.
See above.
 
Mark44 said:
Not true. Each one is the negative of the other.

See above.

Ok, I had overlooked the absolute values required when you integrate and get natural logs. Still using u:

\ln\left|\frac{u + 1}{u - 1}\right| = \ln\left|\frac{u + 1}{(-1)(1 - u)}\right| = \ln\left|\frac{1 + u}{1 - u}\right|

Char. Limit said:
x = \frac{1}{a} \left( \frac{e^{2y} + 1}{e^{2y} - 1} \right)

That still doesn't seem right though... is that 1/a supposed to be there? I don't think that's supposed to be there...

Factor ex from the numerator and denominator, cancel them, then change the variables to get the inverse.

As far as 1/a, consider some functions like f(x) = x2 and g(x) = sin(x) and their inverses (with restricted domain) with ax.
y = f(ax) = (ax)2
Inverse:
x = (ay)2
√x = ay
y = (√x)/a

y = g(ax) = sin(ax)
Inverse:
x = sin(ay)
sin-1x = ay
y = (sin-1x)/a
 
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