Inverse Trig Function: Find Derivative of the Function

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function f(x) = arcsec(4x). Participants are exploring the application of the derivative formula for the arcsecant function and addressing issues encountered in online homework submissions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to apply the derivative formula for arcsecant but express confusion about the correct application, particularly regarding the absolute value and the square root component. Questions arise about the interpretation of variables and the structure of the derivative expression.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the correct formula and its application, with some participants providing guidance on clarifying notation and addressing specific errors. Multiple interpretations of the derivative expression are being discussed, and while some progress is noted, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention recurring issues with online homework feedback, indicating potential constraints in how the derivative must be expressed or calculated. There is also a focus on ensuring clarity in notation to avoid misinterpretation.

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Homework Statement


find the derivative of the function
f(x)=arcsec(4x)


Homework Equations


I think this is a Relevant equations.

d/dx[arcsecu]=u'/(|u|(√u2-1)


The Attempt at a Solution


f'(x)=4/(|4|(√42-1)
=1/√15

I keep getting wrong in my online homework why? :confused:
 
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chapsticks said:

Homework Statement


find the derivative of the function
f(x)=arcsec(4x)


Homework Equations


I think this is a Relevant equations.

d/dx[arcsecu]=u'/(|u|(√u2-1)


The Attempt at a Solution


f'(x)=4/(|4|(√42-1)
=1/√15

I keep getting wrong in my online homework why? :confused:

What happened to the x??
 
is it 4/(|4x|(√4x2-1))

I keep getting it wrong
 
What is u in your original integral? What is [itex]u^2[/itex]?
 
chapsticks said:
is it 4/(|4x|(√4x2-1))

I keep getting it wrong

That's sort of close. But look up the formula again. Isn't the square root part [itex]\sqrt(u^2-1)[/itex] instead of what you have? And when you write something like 4x^2 it's not clear whether you mean (4x)^2 or 4*(x^2). Which do you mean?
 
I mean this one (4x)^2
 
chapsticks said:
I mean this one (4x)^2

Ok, then keep writing it like that. And what about my other question?
 
okay how about this answer??

f'(x)=arcsec4x+ 4/(4x(√(16x)2-1)
 
I did this one in my homework online and it keeps saying I'm wrong
 

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chapsticks said:
okay how about this answer??

f'(x)=arcsec4x+ 4/(4x(√(16x)2-1)

Stop changing things without giving any reason. Why did you put the arcsec4x in there? Why did you drop the absolute value on |4x|? (4x)^2 was right, (16x)^2 isn't. Why not?
 
  • #11
chapsticks said:
I did this one in my homework online and it keeps saying I'm wrong

That looks right, except you have x instead of |x|.
 
  • #12
YAY it finally worked thank you :D
 

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