Inverse Trig Substitution Integral

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the form \(\int x^{3} \sqrt{4+x^{2}} \, dx\), with a focus on inverse trigonometric substitution techniques. Participants are exploring different substitution methods and their implications on the integral's complexity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the substitution \(x = 2\tan\theta\) and its resulting integral form, questioning the derivation of terms like \(\tan^{3}\theta\) and suggesting alternative substitutions such as \(x = \sinh(u)\). There are also discussions about simplifying the integral using identities like \(\tan^{2}\theta = \sec^{2}\theta - 1\).

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants providing hints and alternative approaches. Some participants express uncertainty about the steps taken, while others suggest simplifications that may lead to a clearer path forward. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a correction regarding the integral's initial term, changing from \(x^{2}\) to \(x^{3}\), which may affect the subsequent calculations and approaches discussed.

Bazzinga
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\int x^{2} \sqrt{4+x^{2}} dx

I've already subbed in:

x = 2tan\theta
dx = 2sec^{2}\theta d\theta

and I've gotten down to:

16 \int tan^{3}\theta sec^{3}\theta d\theta

But now I have noo idea what to do! Can someone give me a hint?
 
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Hi Bazzinga! :smile:

(where did your tan3 come from? :confused:)

sorry, but you just have to slog it out, using repeated integration by parts :redface:

substituting x = sinh(u) instead would have been a lot easier :wink:
 
I think your integral should reduce to
<br /> 16 \int tan^{2}\theta sec^{3}\theta d\theta <br />

as the x2 term outside the square root will give tan2.

Replace tan2θ with sec2θ -1 and try to simplify it. I think the integrals may get a bit complicated.
 
Bazzinga said:
...
and I've gotten down to:

16 \int \tan^{3}\theta \sec^{3}\theta d\theta

rock.freak667 said:
I think your integral should reduce to
<br /> 16 \int \tan^{2}\theta \sec^{3}\theta d\theta <br />

as the x2 term outside the square root will give tan2.

Replace tan2θ with sec2θ -1 and try to simplify it. I think the integrals may get a bit complicated.
Hi Bazzinga.

The integral:
16 \int \tan^{3}\theta \sec^{3}\theta \,d\theta
works out very easily with rock.freak667's suggestion for a replacement.

However, if rock.freak667 is right (probably the case) then your integral reduces to
<br /> 16 \int \sec^{5}\theta -\sec^{3}\theta d\theta <br />
 
Oh sorry, the term is x^{3} not x^{2}
 
Bazzinga said:
Oh sorry, the term is x^{3} not x^{2}
In that case,
<br /> \int \tan^{3}\theta \sec^{3}\theta \,d\theta = \int \tan\theta\,\left(\sec^{5}\theta-\sec^{3}\theta \right)\, d\theta<br />
=\int \left(\sec^{4}\theta-\sec^{2}\theta \right)\tan\theta\,\sec\theta\ d\theta
This is quite straight forward.
 

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