IQ scores and learning disabilities.

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The discussion centers on the validity of using IQ scores to identify learning disabilities. Participants argue that learning disabilities can significantly impact IQ scores, questioning whether IQ tests are effective measures of intelligence or appropriate for diagnosing learning disabilities. Some point out that IQ tests were originally designed to identify mental retardation, not learning disabilities, and suggest that they may not be the sole tool used in assessments. There is a consensus that while IQ tests can provide some insights, they do not account for motivation or future success. The conversation also touches on the social stigma associated with learning disability classifications and emphasizes the importance of having documented assessments to access necessary resources and support. Overall, there is a call for more comprehensive methods to evaluate intelligence and learning disabilities beyond traditional IQ testing.
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Is it not counter productive to use IQ scores to determine whether a student has a learning disability? Many studies have shown that a learning disability can have a significant effect on IQ (which also leads to the discussion whether IQ scores are effective methods of determining intelligence).

If you can't tell already I do have a bias on this matter because I took an IQ test in 4th grade and I was shown to have a learning disability (slower motor skills). I was also shown to have advanced mathematical and logical abilities.
 
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NafeesR said:
Is it not counter productive to use IQ scores to determine whether a student has a learning disability? Many studies have shown that a learning disability can have a significant effect on IQ (which also leads to the discussion whether IQ scores are effective methods of determining intelligence).

If you can't tell already I do have a bias on this matter because I took an IQ test in 4th grade and I was shown to have a learning disability (slower motor skills). I was also shown to have advanced mathematical and logical abilities.
IQ tests were only created to determine learning disabilities.
 
Evo said:
IQ tests were only created to determine learning disabilities.

Wrong it was developed to identify mental retardation which is completely different than a learning disability.
 
I don't know a lot in this area, but perhaps they use IQ tests to detect the presence of a learning disability.
 
NafeesR said:
Wrong it was developed to identify mental retardation which is completely different than a learning disability.
I was being polite, you yourself said the test revealed a learning disability. It can identify problems.

Is there some point to this thread aside from a personal grievance?
 
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Evo said:
I was being polite.

In what way please clarify?
 
NafeesR said:
Wrong it was developed to identify mental retardation which is completely different than a learning disability.

yes, it was developed to identify mental retardation.IQ tests can detect certain abilities. But just because a person has a high IQ it does not say anything about his/her motivation or success later in life.
 
NafeesR said:
In what way please clarify?
To not insinuate that you were mentally retarded due to a low score.
 
Evo said:
To not insinuate that you were mentally retarded due to a low score.

I did not have a low score, my score was above average. I was simply much lower in one area than others. Clearly you are not knowledgeable in the area of learning disabilities.
 
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NafeesR said:
I did not have a low score, my score was above average. I was simply much lower in one area than others.
Then what's your beef?
 
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Evo said:
Then what's your beef?

I have no "beef," I am simply questioning the majority. If no one were to question the majority then there would have been no advances in science.

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I can see how I might have been taken as defensive.
 
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NafeesR said:
I have no "beef," I am simply questioning the majority. If no one were to question the majority then there would have been no advances in science.

EDIT:
I can see how I might have been taken as defensive.
That's fair. Do you think they managed to assess you correctly or incorrectly?
 
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Evo said:
That's fair. Do you think they managed to assess you correctly or incorrectly?

I do think they assessed me correctly, I don't think they have assessed everyone correctly. I think that it is only a matter of time before someone discovers a better way. For understanding intelligence in general I mean.
 
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NafeesR said:
Is it not counter productive to use IQ scores to determine whether a student has a learning disability? Many studies have shown that a learning disability can have a significant effect on IQ (which also leads to the discussion whether IQ scores are effective methods of determining intelligence).

If you can't tell already I do have a bias on this matter because I took an IQ test in 4th grade and I was shown to have a learning disability (slower motor skills). I was also shown to have advanced mathematical and logical abilities.
I don't know the whole method used but I'm sure they don't rely exclusively on an IQ test to determine a learning disability. There must be supplemental evaluations involved. In any event, the real point is to have some kind of data on paper that can be used to get someone access to any dedicated programs and financial help they made need if they have a disability.

A lot of people who receive a negative sounding classification of any kind may misunderstand it as a sort of officially sanctioned social stigma. (In the wrong hands it can have that effect, but that's incidental.) The actual point, is to have something quantified on paper according to some defensible, accepted standards to free up money and resources, or justify diversion into an appropriate learning situation. Legal red tape.

As to IQ tests; they're an excellent indicator as to how well a person may be expected to do on future IQ tests.
 
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IQ tests? It is not that simple:wink: anymore.

http://www.best-career-match.com/multiple-intelligences.html
 
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the last time I took an IQ test was around 4th grade as well. The results weren't pretty, I shouldn't even be able to tie my own shoelaces. But my teachers also realize my marks consistently rank among the top 5 in the class.

I ended up getting a lecture on not taking the test seriously.
 
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You won't find a large fanbase for IQ tests around here, ironically perhaps, among folks who probably "tested well."

A high IQ score, plus a dollar, will get you a coke (as long as you have another quarter).
 

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