IR Phototransistor Emitter and Detector Questions

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The discussion revolves around the use of an infrared (IR) phototransistor emitter and detector, specifically addressing issues related to their operation and setup. Participants explore the functionality of these components, including the necessary connections and components required for proper operation.

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  • One participant notes that the phototransistor detector will not generate a voltage on its own and must be biased like a regular transistor, suggesting that the collector should be positive with respect to the emitter.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a resistor and power supply for the detector, recommending a 1000 ohm resistor with a 9V battery to measure voltage changes.
  • A different participant points out that the emitter is an LED and mentions the need for a current limiting resistor, warning that the LED may be damaged if not properly connected.
  • There are suggestions to ensure correct polarity when connecting the components, as incorrect connections could lead to malfunction.

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Participants generally agree on the necessity of proper biasing and the use of resistors, but there is no consensus on the specific configurations or troubleshooting steps, as different participants offer varying advice and interpretations of the components' functions.

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I recently bought a phototransistor emitter and detector from radio shack: http://www.radioshack.com/sm-matched-infrared-emitter-and-phototransistor-detector--pi-2049723.html . It didn't come with much instruction but i thought i could simply put a voltage across the emitter and the detector would simply detect it and induce a voltage across its leads. However, when i actualy do this it doesn't seem to work. I made sure i put the proper polarity across the anode and cathode of the emitter but nothing happens. ... Any ideas? Does anyone have information or recomendation on IR remote controlls? This is not for any specific project, but i just want to learn how to use IR. I have tryed looking this up online but suprisingly i have not found much good information. If someone could direct me to a good resource i would appreciate it.
 
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dionysian said:
I recently bought a phototransistor emitter and detector from radio shack: http://www.radioshack.com/sm-matched-infrared-emitter-and-phototransistor-detector--pi-2049723.html . It didn't come with much instruction but i thought i could simply put a voltage across the emitter and the detector would simply detect it and induce a voltage across its leads. However, when i actualy do this it doesn't seem to work. I made sure i put the proper polarity across the anode and cathode of the emitter but nothing happens. ... Any ideas? Does anyone have information or recomendation on IR remote controlls? This is not for any specific project, but i just want to learn how to use IR. I have tryed looking this up online but suprisingly i have not found much good information. If someone could direct me to a good resource i would appreciate it.

You bought a phototransistor detector rather than a solar cell, so it won't generate a voltage on its own. Bias the phototransistor as you would a regular transistor (collector positive with respect to emitter, assuming it's NPN). There is no base lead. Photons falling on the base region generate charge carriers through the photoelectric effect, and the base is so thin that they diffuse into the collector region and are swept into your circuit. What you should see is no current flowing when dark, and current proportional to the brightness when exposed to light.

Make sure you put a resistor or load in series with the collector to limit the current.

Good luck!
 
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The RS link you gave says the detector is a phototransistor.
You will need a resistor and power supply for the detector.
A 1000 ohm resistor and 9v battery should work.
You measure the voltage change across the transistor or resistor.
Be careful to use the correct battery polarity.
 
"It didn't come with much instruction but i thought i could simply put a voltage across the emitter..."
The emitter is a LED. The spec. is 2volts at 40mA so you will need a current limiting resistor. If you can't get an output from your detector transistor, then you may have "blown" the LED.
 

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