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Islamic State takes Syrian town as fighting looks set to intensify
http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-takes-over-syrian-town-homs-province-084327922.html
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Islamic State fighters drove Syrian government forces from a town in the west of the country on Sunday, as fighting looked set to intensify despite a flurry of international diplomacy and talks between regional rivals.

The jihadists' advance came even as Russian warplanes and Syrian forces supported by them stepped up assaults against insurgents in west and northwest Syria, and the United States separately sought to increase pressure on Islamic State.
 
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After the well deserved solidarity with Paris, it seems appropriate to mention another ISIS atrocity that killed 41 people, this time in Beirut, one day before the Paris attacks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34805466

The blasts on Thursday evening struck in a busy shopping street. More than 200 people were wounded - many of them seriously, Health Minister Wael Abou Faour said.

The army said that two men wearing suicide vests carried out the attack. The first bomber detonated his explosive vest outside a Shia mosque, while the second blew himself up inside a nearby bakery.
ISIS issued a statement:
"After the apostates gathered in the area, one of the knights of martyrdom detonated his explosive belt in the midst of them," the statement said. It did not refer to Hezbollah's involvement in Syria.
Too much pain is caused by those lunatics.
 
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I wonder why western countries keep those who wish to join ISIS against their will and confiscate their passports... I would have even helped them to get off my country and informed the Interpol so that they would be denied entrance to any proper country.
If you insist on preventing ISIS from growing, you could use these people as leads to the whereabouts of ISIS boot camps and infrastructure... Keeping them as forced residents is just begging for trouble.
 

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IS militants dig in, anticipating assault on Syria's Raqqa
http://news.yahoo.com/militants-dig-anticipating-assault-syrias-raqqa-200440454.html [Broken]

The fighters are hiding in civilian neighborhoods and preventing anyone from fleeing, activists said.
Hiding behind civilians and non-combatants. Shameful!


Russian military is cooperating with French forces in Syria.
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-minister-attacks-us-policy-syria-141642352.html [Broken]
 
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I wonder how the USA will still find a way to demonize Putin even though he is probably more effective against Isis than the US.
I had read where ISIS bombed a Russian passenger aircraft, killing all aboard. Is that a sign of effective response to ISIS? I read where Putin's missile batteries have shot down other passenger aircraft in Ukraine, killing all aboard. Is that what you call the demonization of Putin?
 
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In a recent soccer game in Turkey, the crowd was asked to observe a moment of silence for the ISIS attacks in Paris which killed more than a hundred people. Result:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/s...-allahu-akbar-paris-tribute-article-1.2438142
Very insensitive indeed, but there might be more to it
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-fans-boo-minutes-silence-for-paris-victims-but-it-was-not-a-mark-of-disrespect-claim-a6738741.html

However, comments on social media sites have suggested that the boos were not to disrespect those who had died in the attacks - but more to do with the hypocrisy of the Western world.

International teams did not hold a minute's silence after the Ankara terror attack in October. More than 100 people died in the Turkish capital after two bombs were set off outside the Ankara Central railway station on 11 October; Turkish fans also booed during a minute's silence of their game against Iceland on 13 October.

Abs Pangader Actually, they're chanting "Sehitler olmez, vatan bolunmez." Which means "Martyrs never die, the nation won't be divided." This is a common slogan thrown in remembrance of Turkish soldiers who fell victim to terrorism. In Turkey, there is rarely a minute of silence that isn't interrupted by this chant. Whether its a minute of silence for a Turkish catastrophe, or something else that happened globally, this always happens.
I don't speak Turkish so I don't know how plausible that claim is. Perhaps a Turkish PFer can shed some light on this. I definitely couldn't distinguish any 'Allahu Akbar' chants in the video though as the article you posted states.
 

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Why U.S. Efforts to Cut Off Islamic State’s Funds Have Failed
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-u-efforts-cut-off-090013562.html [Broken]

Russia seems to targeting Daesh's oil infrastructure.


Islamic State group making determined effort for chemical weapons, Iraqi, US officials say
http://news.yahoo.com/iraqi-us-officials-working-produce-152535005.html [Broken]

Good reason to take out their petrochemical plants.
 
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Daesh in Raqqa.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/telling-the-truth-about-isis-and-raqqa

By the beginning of 2014, ISIS had absolute control of the city. They now overran the mosques, drove out Christians from the city, and turned major municipal buildings into their various headquarters. The propaganda campaign that ISIS mustered following the capture of Raqqa brought on a wave of foreigners.
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In mid-April, 2014, just a month after the first crucifixions in the city, a group of six like-minded young people started to talk to each other on Facebook. The group expanded only a little before ISIS discovered it. Within two or three weeks a local imam declared that anyone who worked with R.B.S.S. would be tracked down and executed. Some civilians were arrested simply because they “liked” a post on social media.

In May, 2014, R.B.S.S. suffered its first casualty. One of the men at the bar told me: “One of our reporters was stopped at a checkpoint and his equipment was confiscated and searched.” He was held for three weeks, then executed in a public square in Raqqa.

“In the beginning we didn’t think it was that dangerous,” Hamza said. “We didn’t think they would execute us. . . . "
Be thankful if one is not in Raqqa.
 

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I'm impressed by the use of leaflets. They should use more of those things.
US warplanes have destroyed 283 fuel tankers that were being used to transport oil to help fund the Islamic State ...

US jets on Saturday first conducted a low-flying "show of force" over the trucks, then dropped leaflets telling drivers to flee. ...

... the leaflets dropped stated: "Get out of your trucks now, and run away from them."

... the drivers themselves were not thought to be jihadists.

... US A-10 air-to-ground attack planes and AC-130 gunships then destroyed the tankers, Davis said, adding there had been no reports of civilian casualties. "We have very methodically gone through this to ensure that we are doing this in a way that is humane and not going to cause civilian casualties," Davis said ...
http://news.yahoo.com/us-warplanes-destroy-283-fuel-trucks-syria-211341520.html
 

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The radar track show them crossing the border and out. Maybe 10-15 seconds at close to Mach 1. Not a hostile incursion or direct threat to Turkey but it was a technical incursion after Russia was warned many times before this. Totally unnecessary to shoot down a plane for this when a AA radar lock would have the same effect.

Turkey was on a hair-trigger and I suspect Russia will have fighter escorts with it's bombers the next time near the border.
 

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The War Continues

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/russia-bombards-syrian-rebels-near-downed-russian-jet-122428258.html
YAYLADAGI, Turkey (Reuters) - Russian forces launched a heavy bombardment against insurgent-held areas in Syria's Latakia province on Wednesday, near where a Russian warplane had been shot down by Turkey the day before, rebels and a monitoring group said.

At least 12 air strikes hit Latakia's northern countryside as pro-government forces clashed with fighters from al Qaeda's Nusra Front and Turkmen insurgents in the Jabal Akrad and Jabal Turkman areas, the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

A Turkmen commander said missiles fired from Russian warships in the Mediterranean were also hitting the area, as well as heavy artillery shelling.
 

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The population in that part of Syria are predominantly Turkmen, who are opposed to Assad. Turkey is an apparently ally and supporter of the Turkmen in Syria. Apparently there are al Nusra groups there as well. It makes me wonder if the aircraft that was shot down was attacking the Turkmen and al Nusra rather than Daesh.

With Russia supporting Assad, it would seem to put Russia in conflict with interests of US and EU, and parts of the ME.
 

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. It makes me wonder if the aircraft that was shot down was attacking the Turkmen and al Nusra rather than Daesh..
Rather than? Russia's focus on entering Syria was not Daesh. As far as I know still is not.
 

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The radar track show them crossing the border and out. Maybe 10-15 seconds at close to Mach 1. ....
Thanks. What's the source for the time-speed information? I don't see any on the graphics.
 

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Thanks. What's the source for the time-speed information? I don't see any on the graphics.
After Turkish representatives presented their side of the encounter at the meeting, they received expressions of support for their country’s territorial integrity, according to the diplomats’ account.

The Russian Su-24 that was struck was over the Hatay region of Turkey for about 17 seconds, according to one diplomat who attended the NATO meeting. But the plane re-entered Syrian airspace after being hit and therefore crashed in Syria, the diplomat said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/world/europe/turkey-syria-russia-military-plane.html?_r=0
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They say 17 seconds but Russia says they didn't cross, period. Could they both be right?

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/turkish-f-16-shoots-down-russian-jet-for-disputed-airspace-violation/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34925229
The foreign minister spent a fraught hour on the phone to his Turkish counterpart today, but his conclusion was critical: "We do not intend to go to war with Turkey," Sergei Lavrov assured the world.

Instead, ministries have been ordered to report back to the Kremlin on any projects involving Turkey, for a decision on possible sanctions. The future of a pipeline project could be in doubt and there have been calls for flights to Turkey to be suspended.

Meanwhile, tourists have been warned against travelling there for "security reasons". Last year, Turkey was the destination of choice for over three million Russian holidaymakers.
 
The radar track show them crossing the border and out. Maybe 10-15 seconds at close to Mach 1.
Su-24 is a ground attack aircraft, it can barely manage 1.3 Mach on afterburner, and that at high altitude only. It's likely it wasn't going anywhere close to that velocity.
 

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"Columbia University's Program on Peace-building and Rights assigned a team of researchers in the United States, Europe, and Turkey to examine Turkish and international media, assessing the credibility of allegations. This report draws on a variety of international sources -- The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, BBC, Sky News, as well as Turkish sources, CNN Turk, Hurriyet Daily News, Taraf, Cumhuriyet, and Radikal among others."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/research-paper-isis-turke_b_6128950.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/report-turkey-collaborating-with-the-islamic-state

The allegations are as follows:

- Turkey Provides Military Equipment to ISIS
- Turkey Provided Transport and Logistical Assistance to ISIS Fighters
- Turkey Provided Training to ISIS Fighters
- Turkey Offers Medical Care to ISIS Fighters
- Turkey Supports ISIS Financially Through Purchase of Oil
- Turkey Assists ISIS Recruitment
- Turkish Forces Are Fighting Alongside ISIS
- Turkey Helped ISIS in Battle for Kobani
- Turkey and ISIS Share a Worldview
 

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