Is a Variable Frequency Drive Necessary for a Turntable Motor?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity and application of variable frequency drives (VFDs) for powering turntable motors, specifically three-phase induction AC motors. Participants explore the relationship between VFDs and gear ratios, as well as the mechanical aspects of turntable design.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants believe that a variable frequency drive is ideal for controlling a three-phase induction AC motor used in turntables.
  • Others question the appropriateness of using such a motor for turntables, suggesting that a simpler setup may suffice.
  • There is a consensus that VFDs are primarily for motor control and do not include mechanical gears, which must be addressed separately.
  • One participant mentions that direct drive turntables typically do not use gearing and are mounted directly on the motor shaft.
  • Another participant provides a technical explanation of how VFDs control motor speed by varying the frequency of the electrical power supplied to the motor.
  • Some participants suggest contacting motor representatives for specific application advice, emphasizing the need for detailed specifications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of a VFD for turntables, with some advocating for its use while others suggest it may not be required for all applications. The relationship between VFDs and gear ratios is generally agreed upon, but the overall necessity of a three-phase motor remains contested.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the application of VFDs and gear ratios depends heavily on specific use cases and motor specifications, which are not fully detailed in the discussion.

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I believe a variable frequency drive is the best thing for a three phase induction AC motor. Also I am looking for information regarding gear ratios - is this part of the VFD or is this separate? Any information regarding gear ratios would be helpful. The motor will be used to power a turntable.
 
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Welcome to PF, Joey.
Must be one hell of a turntable for that kind of motor to be used. You'd better be playing Black Sabbath or Metallica, because it would simply be wasted on John Denver.

I'm not familiar with VFD's. A gearbox, on the other hand, goes between the motor and the load. You really have to be a lot more specific in your questioning, because there are thousands of possible arrangements.
 
VFD's are usually seen in industrial applications. Companies like Baldor make a lot of them. They are quite nice for control. However, to OP, there is no connection between a VFD and gear ratios. The VFD is the motor drive circuitry. It has nothing to do with the mechanical make up. Every industrial motor I have ever seen has been a straight run shaft. No gearing. You will have to do that separately if required.
 
joeyar said:
I believe a variable frequency drive is the best thing for a three phase induction AC motor. Also I am looking for information regarding gear ratios - is this part of the VFD or is this separate? Any information regarding gear ratios would be helpful. The motor will be used to power a turntable.

Like Fred mentioned, VFD's are for motor control and don't consit of any type of mechanical gears. We use them in the Oil & Gas industry quite often for variable speed drilling top drives.

Here's a little more information on them...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable-frequency_drive

CS
 
Try google on -> direct drive record turntable

The ones I remember did indeed use a vfd on an induction motor.
They did not use gearing and the turntable was set directly on the shaft.
 
try calling the baldor or leeson motor rep

try calling the baldor or leeson motor rep
they will know what is best for your application
not much else to say without specs for horse power or speeds
these motors are both great
good luck
 
Dear joey

A variable-frequency drive (VFD) is a system for controlling the rotational speed of an alternating current (AC) electric motor by controlling the frequency of the electrical power supplied to the motor.

Variable frequency drives operate under the principle that the synchronous speed of an AC motor is determined by the frequency of the AC supply and the number of poles in the stator winding, according to the relation, RPM=120f/p

where, p is the number of pole pairs, f is the ac power frequency.So by varying the frequency the speed of motor can be controlled.

About the Mechanical reduction or gear ratios in motors reduction units most common is worm wheel and planetary reduction stages and again depends on application.

Thanks& Regards

Rajeesh
 
Old thread, but hopefully, the OP is talking about a big turntable, like one you might put a car on at a car show. I happened to see a sales rep turning one off at the Philly car show last month, and it looked like about a 1-3hp motor with a belt-drive. Still not something warranting a 3 phase motor and VFD.
 

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