Is an intramolecular bond the same thing as an intramolecular force?

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The discussion revolves around the distinction between intramolecular bonds and intramolecular forces, exploring their definitions, examples, and implications in molecular interactions. The scope includes conceptual clarifications and examples relevant to chemistry and molecular biology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that a chemical bond is a type of intramolecular force, but not all intramolecular forces qualify as bonds.
  • Questions are raised about examples of intramolecular forces that do not constitute bonds.
  • One participant suggests that forces between molecular ions may not be considered bonds, yet could still be classified as intramolecular if they form a molecule.
  • Another participant mentions Van der Waals forces as an example of intramolecular forces that do not form bonds.
  • It is noted that in an aqueous medium, apolar elements of a large molecule can attract each other, which is significant for understanding the behavior of large biological molecules.
  • A participant points out that atoms in a molecule that are not directly bonded may still experience forces due to each other, highlighting the complexity of intramolecular interactions.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions and examples of intramolecular bonds versus intramolecular forces, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of intramolecular bonds and forces may be missing, and the discussion does not resolve the nuances of these terms or their implications in different contexts.

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? And could you give some examples of intramolecular bonds please?
 
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What are some intramolecular forces that are not bonds?
 
I was wondering about that ... I would imagine that the forces between molecular ions would not be bonds, but would still count as intramolecular if the two ions would make a molecule.
 
Van der Waal's forces do not form bonds, for instance...
 
Also, in a aqueous medium apolar elements of a large molecule attract each other. That's very important for understanding, for instance, the behavior of large biological molecules.
 
It also occurred to me that atoms in a molecule that are not bonded to each other will experience forces due to each other. i.e. in CH4, the intramolecuar forces between the C and each H are bonds, but any forces between the H's are not.
 

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