Is body to body gravity scale independent?

dylankarr.com
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
I'm working on a gravity simulator and I can't help but feel that I've done something wrong. Extremely large bodies take a longer time to fall into each other than smaller ones. Is this right? Like for example, if you had to bodies of solar mass at 1 AU apart, would it take a longer, shorter or the same amount of time for two other bodies of half solar mass at half an AU to fall into each other?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
dylankarr.com said:
if you had to bodies of solar mass at 1 AU apart, would it take a longer, shorter or the same amount of time for two other bodies of half solar mass at half an AU to fall into each other?

In the second case (two 0.5-solar mass bodies), the force is 1/4 as much, the acceleration is 1/2 as much, and the time is greater by a factor of \sqrt{2}.
 
dylankarr.com said:
I'm working on a gravity simulator and I can't help but feel that I've done something wrong. Extremely large bodies take a longer time to fall into each other than smaller ones. Is this right? Like for example, if you had to bodies of solar mass at 1 AU apart, would it take a longer, shorter or the same amount of time for two other bodies of half solar mass at half an AU to fall into each other?

In both cases the force is the same, F = \frac{G M_1M_2}{r^2} = \frac{G (M_1/2) (M_2/2)}{(r/2)^2}

The acceleration is different. In the first case:

a = \frac{GM_1}{r^2}

In the second case:

a = \frac{G(M_1/2)}{(r/2)^2} = \frac{2GM_1}{r^2}

so the acceleration is twice that of the first case.

The distance (x) to travel is also half that of the first case, so:

In the first case t= \sqrt{\frac{2x}{a}}

for the time to fall a short distance x relative a large r.

In the second case t = \sqrt{\frac{2(x/2)}{2a}} = \sqrt{\frac{x}{2a}}

which is less time to fall in the second case.

You would of course have to integrate the equations over the total distance for them to come together and the analysis above is just for a short segment of the fall, but overall the smaller closer bodies fall together faster.

If the initial distance apart (r) was the same for the smaller and larger bodies, then the falling time would for the lighter bodies would be longer because:

For the larger bodies t = r\sqrt{\frac{8x}{GM_2}}

and for the smaller bodies t = r\sqrt{\frac{16x}{GM_2}}
 
Last edited:
Thread 'Can this experiment break Lorentz symmetry?'
1. The Big Idea: According to Einstein’s relativity, all motion is relative. You can’t tell if you’re moving at a constant velocity without looking outside. But what if there is a universal “rest frame” (like the old idea of the “ether”)? This experiment tries to find out by looking for tiny, directional differences in how objects move inside a sealed box. 2. How It Works: The Two-Stage Process Imagine a perfectly isolated spacecraft (our lab) moving through space at some unknown speed V...
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. The Relativator was sold by (as printed) Atomic Laboratories, Inc. 3086 Claremont Ave, Berkeley 5, California , which seems to be a division of Cenco Instruments (Central Scientific Company)... Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/relativator-circular-slide-rule-simulated-with-desmos/ by @robphy
Does the speed of light change in a gravitational field depending on whether the direction of travel is parallel to the field, or perpendicular to the field? And is it the same in both directions at each orientation? This question could be answered experimentally to some degree of accuracy. Experiment design: Place two identical clocks A and B on the circumference of a wheel at opposite ends of the diameter of length L. The wheel is positioned upright, i.e., perpendicular to the ground...

Similar threads

Back
Top