Is D2/D1 = 0 the Ideal Condition for Pressure Loss in a Pipe?

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The discussion clarifies that D2/D1 = 0 represents a theoretical scenario where the diameter of the pipe (D2) is negligible compared to the diameter of the reservoir (D1). This condition is approached rather than exactly equal to zero, indicating that the pipe's size is significantly smaller than the fluid source. An example provided is a drain pipe from a swimming pool, where the pipe's area is minimal compared to the pool's area. The conversation also notes that K factors used for pressure loss calculations are approximate and should be validated through testing for critical applications. Understanding these dynamics is essential for accurate pressure loss assessments in pipe design.
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what does the author mean by D2/ D1 = 0 ? when D2/ D1 = 0 , the pipe doesn't exist , right ?

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foo9008 said:

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what does the author mean by D2/ D1 = 0 ? when D2/ D1 = 0 , the pipe doesn't exist , right ?

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Right. The limiting case when D2/D1 = 0 applies when fluid is flowing from a wide-open volume, say a reservoir, into a pipe suddenly. The diameter of flow from the reservoir D1 is so huge in comparison to the diameter of the pipe D2 that the quantity D2/D1 → 0 in the limit.
 
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Right. The limiting case when D2/D1 = 0 applies when fluid is flowing from a wide-open volume, say a reservoir, into a pipe suddenly. The diameter of flow from the reservoir D1 is so huge in comparison to the diameter of the pipe D2 that the quantity D2/D1 → 0 in the limit.
so it's not exactly = 0 , it's approaching 0 , am i right ?
 
foo9008 said:
so it's not exactly = 0 , it's approaching 0 , am i right ?

Right. Think about a drain pipe going straight down from the floor of a swimming pool. The area of the pipe is negligible in comparison to the area of the pool. The next entry in the table is D2/D1 = 0.1, so the big pipe is ten times the diameter of the small pipe (and you use K=0.45). Anything much bigger than that, use 0.5.

Keep in mind these K factors are approximate; they will give you "pretty close" results. For really critical applications, pressure losses are determined by testing. If you're designing something where K=0.45 gives acceptable results but 0.5 does not, you need to re-think your approach.
 
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