Is it possible to express friction force as a tensor?

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The discussion centers on the possibility of expressing the friction force, defined by the equation Ff = m FN, as a tensor. Participants confirm that the friction force (Ff) and the normal force (FN) are both rank one vectors, while mass (m) is a scalar quantity. The confusion arises regarding the rank of mass when considering tensor notation, specifically whether it can be treated as a second rank tensor. Ultimately, it is established that mass remains a scalar and does not possess tensor characteristics.

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Homework Statement


Consider the equation for the friction force Ff = m FN. is it possible to express the friction force as a tensor? If so, what rank tensor is it, and what are the ranks of the tensor m and the normal force FN?

Homework Equations


Ff = mFN

The Attempt at a Solution

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So I know friction force is a vector quantity so this one is a rank one vector and so will the normal force. Where I’m confused is when it comes to the mass.

Can I assume that the index must be summed hence making the rank of m 2? Now I’m well aware mass is a scalar quantity, but I’m slightly confuse.

(Ff)_i = (m)_ij * (FN) _j

Can I make that assumption based on the interaction between the mass and the normal force?

Like I know that friction and normal force have different direction, this I must keep this into one direction when solving for the friction force, but I can’t make this connection for some reason
 
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Digital_lassitude said:

Homework Statement


Consider the equation for the friction force Ff = m FN. is it possible to express the friction force as a tensor? If so, what rank tensor is it, and what are the ranks of the tensor m and the normal force FN?

Homework Equations


Ff = mFN

The Attempt at a Solution

[/B]
So I know friction force is a vector quantity so this one is a rank one vector and so will the normal force. Where I’m confused is when it comes to the mass.

Can I assume that the index must be summed hence making the rank of m 2? Now I’m well aware mass is a scalar quantity, but I’m slightly confuse.

(Ff)_i = (m)_ij * (FN) _j

Can I make that assumption based on the interaction between the mass and the normal force?

Like I know that friction and normal force have different direction, this I must keep this into one direction when solving for the friction force, but I can’t make this connection for some reason
What kind of quantity is mass here? Do you have different components in different directions as your notation ##m_{ij}## suggests?
 
Isn't friction force a vector, which is already a first order tensor?
 

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