Is it possible to have distance but apply no force?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of work in physics, specifically whether it is possible to have distance traveled by an object without any force being applied. The context includes a free body diagram (FBD) and considerations of constant velocity and net forces.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a scenario where a box travels 10 m horizontally with constant velocity, leading to the conclusion that if the net force is zero, then the work done is also zero.
  • Another participant agrees that if an object is moving with constant velocity, it does not require a net force to maintain that motion, referencing Newton's 1st law.
  • Some participants express confusion about the idea of achieving distance without exerting force, finding it peculiar.
  • A later reply confirms the initial calculations and reiterates that constant speed motion implies no net work is done on the object.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that if there is constant velocity, the net force and net work are zero. However, there is some confusion and debate regarding the implications of achieving distance without applied force.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the implications of their statements, and there may be assumptions regarding the definitions of work and force that are not explicitly stated.

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This is NOT homework.

In the FBD above, there is no friction, the velocity is constant, and the distance traveled by the box is 10 m horizontally. Find the work exerted on the object horizontally.

if f = 0, and a = 0 because of constant velocity,

ΣFx = ma = Fapp (cos 40) - f
200 kg (0) = Fapp (cos 40) -f
0 = Fapp (cos 40) - f
Fapp (cos 40) = f = 0

thus,

Fapp (cos 40) = 0

does this mean: Work = Fapp (cos 40) (d)
W = 0 (10 m)
W = 0

is this possible, to have no force but achieve distance?

Hi, by the way, I am new here. :)
 
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I can't view your image (you'll have to post a link to an image hosting site or upload it as an attachment). But if something's moving with constant velocity, the net force on it is zero and thus the net work on it is zero.

Can something move with no forces acting on it? Of course! Force is not required to maintain velocity, only to change it. See Newton's 1st law.
 
oh. so does this mean there is no work applied at all? i find that peculiar.
 
xewe said:
so does this mean there is no work applied at all?
I can't see your FBD so I don't know what forces act. But certainly there's no net work done.
i find that peculiar.
Why is that?
 
I see the diagram - yes, you've done the math correctly (after a quick look...). Yes, if you have constant speed motion that means there is no net force and therefore no net work done on the object.
 

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