Is it possible to make your metallic glass

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of producing metallic glass, specifically amorphous metals, for personal use in hobbies and crafts. Participants explore various methods of production, including thermoplastic injection and casting, while addressing the properties and applications of metallic glass.

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Main Points Raised

  • Mustafa Umut Sarac inquires about the possibility of producing metallic glass through thermoplastic injection, expressing interest in its applications for hobbies.
  • One participant argues that a clear metallic glass cannot be produced and questions the feasibility of using thermoplastic injection for metallic glass, suggesting it is designed for thermoplastics.
  • Mustafa clarifies that he refers to amorphous metals, noting their use in products like golf clubs and guns, and asks if anyone has produced their own amorphous metal.
  • Another participant explains that metallic glass is stronger than crystalline metals due to the absence of dislocations, emphasizing the need for rapid cooling to prevent crystalline structure formation.
  • Mustafa mentions military interest in injecting amorphous metals into rifle barrels and expresses a desire to learn about the cooling technology involved in production.
  • One participant points out that casting is a method for shaping metals and cooling them, mentioning that technology for this is used in Switzerland for laptops.
  • Another participant states that amorphous metals are prepared by rapid solidification processes, but does not provide details on thermoplastic injection.
  • Mustafa shares his experience with melt-spinning, noting its limitation to thin ribbons and the need for liquid nitrogen for cooling.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods for producing metallic glass, particularly regarding thermoplastic injection and casting. There is no consensus on the feasibility of home production or the specifics of the required technology.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the properties and production methods of metallic glass, with some participants referencing specific applications and materials without resolving the technical details or limitations of the discussed processes.

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I need metallic glass for my hobbies and crafts.
I learned that its possible to thermoplastic injection of metallic glass.
Is it possible to produce such a lumb of metal and how ?

Best regards ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul
 
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If by "metallic glass" you mean a clear metal, no it can't be done through any process I've heard of. However, I'm sure there is some research being done in the area of rapid prototyping/manufacturing to make composite parts using glass and metal. I doubt it would end up being clear however, and probably not as strong as either.

It doesn't make sense that you'd be able to make a metallic glass through a thermoplastic injeciton process, since by definition a thermoplastic injection process is made to be used with thermoplastics, not glass and metal.
 
I meant with metallic glass , amorph metal.
Some companies produce these materials for to make golf clubs to guns.
And it is possible to inject it.
I am asking is there any researcher , home maker produced his own amorph metal ?

Best ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul
 
Mustafa

The idea of metallic glass is to have metals that are amorphous that are stronger than crystalline metals as there are no dislocations to overcome. To achieve this state the metals must be supercooled ie, after the molten metal alloys have been added they are quenched pretty fast at superlow temperatures giving no time for the crystalline structures to form.

If you require papers on this I will be glad to pass them on to you. I am not sure though if one can inject it.
 
Darkelf ,

US military thinks to inject amorph metals into the shape of rifle barrels.
I think nobody knows to do at home.
mustafaumutsarac@ g mail com is my e mail address.
If you pass the papers , I will be happy.
I read something pouring the metal to the copper molds.
I think there are many formulas but I read there is % 80-90 aluminium content formulas.
I think they will be easy to make.
I need to learn this cooling technology.

Best ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul
 
Mustafa,

You talking about casting here. As in casting the metal into the shape you want it then cooling it. Most of the technology for this is done in switzeland and its used for laptops. I don't think the metal alloy composition is much in question as the aim is to avoid crystal structures in the metal so most metal alloy compositions will do.
Now about millitary applications, I have no idea on that and leave that to the miltary.
 
Amorphous metals are prepared by rapid solidification processes.
 
Mustafa Umut said:
I need metallic glass for my hobbies and crafts.
I learned that its possible to thermoplastic injection of metallic glass.
Is it possible to produce such a lumb of metal and how ?

Best regards ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Istanbul
I have a little experience with melt-spinning, but you can only make thin ribbons using this technique. And for most metals/alloys you would need liquid nitrogen to cool the wheel.

But I am not aware of thermoplastic injection of amorphous/glassy materials.
 

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