Is it possible to solve for VL in this parallel RL circuit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of the voltage across an inductor, VL(t), in a parallel RC circuit when a switch is closed at time T = 0. Participants explore the implications of circuit components and their behavior over time, particularly focusing on the role of inductors and capacitors in the circuit's dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the inability to calculate VL(t) without an additional resistor or inductor, arguing that as time progresses, the inductor will charge and the voltage across it will increase.
  • Another participant corrects the first by stating that the confusion lies in mixing up the behaviors of inductors and capacitors, noting that a capacitor charges over time while an inductor eventually acts as a short circuit.
  • A third participant discusses the implications of an ideal voltage source maintaining a constant voltage across the circuit, suggesting that the current through the inductor could theoretically approach infinity, leading to potential real-world failures due to non-ideal factors.
  • A fourth participant mentions that the circuit resembles a "buck-booster" converter, explaining the operational principles of such a circuit and providing links to further resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the calculation of VL(t) and express differing views on the behavior of inductors and capacitors in the circuit. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of solving for VL(t) under the given conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of understanding the roles of different circuit components and their time-dependent behaviors, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the circuit configuration and the definitions of terms used.

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Homework Statement


I have the following parallel RC circuit. At time T = 0, the switch will close and the circuit will be connected. We assume that prior to T = 0, the circuit was at a steady-state.

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I want to calculate VL(t) -- but I am being told that this is not possible for this problem, and would only be possible if there was an additional resistor or inductor (located where the switch is right now).

The professor and other individual who have told me this say that without this additional inductor / resistor, it is not possible to calculate VL(t) as the resistor will be shorted. This makes sense at T = 0, when the inductor will act as a short circuit, and the resistor will in-effect be shorted (as VL(0) = 0).. However, as T increases, the inductor will charge, and the voltage across the inductor will increase, until it acts as an open circuit and all current flows through R.

Therefore, I do not understand why it is not possible to solve for VL(t).

Can anyone provide clarification? I think this might just be miscommunication.

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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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You are confusing inductor with capacitor. A capacitor will charge as T increases, which will eventually act as an open circuit.

On the other hand, an inductor will eventually act like a short circuit (after ~5 time constants).
 
If Vs is an ideal voltage source then it will produce ANY amount of current necessary to maintain its voltage. When the switch closes, node A MUST therefore become equal to Vs, and must remain equal to Vs so long as the switch remains closed.

Normally the voltage across an inductor will go to zero as a circuit heads to steady state, with other circuit components like resistors or capacitors taking up the potential drop. Here it cannot, as Vs wants to maintain the potential and there's nowhere else for a drop to occur. The current through the inductor must therefore head off to infinity to satisfy the equation Vs = L di/dt.

For real components, current will be limited by non-ideal factors like internal resistance, stray inductance, stray capacitance, dielectric breakdown, etc. Something will probably go *BANG* :smile:
 
You can certainly write the equation as gneill suggests.

The circuit is actually close to a real world circuit called a "buck-booster" used to step up or down a DC voltage. The inductor is initially connected to the voltage source on the left and the current allowed to build up in the inductor. When that current reaches a suitable level the inductor is disconnected from the voltage source and connected to the load on the right hand side where it dumps the energy stored in it.

Drawing:
http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fx_files/18833/3/content/html/buck_boost.png

Explanation:
http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcent...rol/content/html/ConfigurableDCConverter.html
 
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