Is ommiting precalc and geomtry good for a school to be doing?

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The discussion centers on the curriculum differences among two-year colleges regarding math courses leading to calculus. One college offers a streamlined path from college algebra to trigonometry and then directly to calculus, omitting geometry and precalculus, which raises concerns about the foundational concepts students may miss. Other colleges typically include geometry, precalculus, and a more gradual progression through math courses. Participants express skepticism about the adequacy of the curriculum that skips these foundational classes, suggesting it could hinder students' success in calculus. There is also debate about whether the content of similarly named courses is consistent across institutions. Some participants reflect on their own experiences with math courses, noting that precalculus often serves as a review rather than a necessary step before calculus. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of a comprehensive math education in preparing students for advanced topics like calculus.
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There are a few 2 year colleges around, anyways, one of them never offers geometry or trig, they just want students to go straight from trig to calculus, but all the other 2 year colleges offer, geometry then college algebra, then trig, then precalc. then calc.
What concepts are probably being omitted by the one school, by offering only college algebra, then trig then straight to calculus? They don't offer geometry or calculus at their school. And doesn't this make is difficult for anyone to do well in calculus this way? This is at a 2 year college.
All of the other 2 year colleges have students take geometry, and precalculus along with all the other classes to be taken before trig, so what gives?
 
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Surely it depends on what's in the courses, not what they are called. Are you sure that the content of the courses with the same name are the same at different colleges?
 
Besides, I would say that neither geometry nor precalculus are necessary requirements for calculus. Those tend to be in the curriculum for high schools that I have seen. I haven't actually seen a college offering Precalc. Heck, the only use trig serves is familiarity with the trig functions. That said, I think each plays a fundamental role in adding tools to any mathematician's toolbox.
 
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There are a few 2 year colleges around, anyways, one of them never offers geometry or trig, they just want students to go straight from trig to calculus, but all the other 2 year colleges offer, geometry then college algebra, then trig, then precalc. then calc.
What concepts are probably being omitted by the one school, by offering only college algebra, then trig then straight to calculus? They don't offer geometry or calculus at their school. And doesn't this make is difficult for anyone to do well in calculus this way? This is at a 2 year college.
All of the other 2 year colleges have students take geometry, and precalculus along with all the other classes to be taken before trig, so what gives?

If you end up really understanding calculus, then you will easily understand the specific circumstances that yield the results you find in pre-calc and lower end classes.
 
I am currently attending a two year college, and I've seen nothing about geometry or pre-calc.

I started with basic Algebra, worked into college level Algebra, and am just now finishing up my trig class. Next semester I move straight into Calculus.

I think that most of the pre-calculus topics were thrown in at the end of trig and algebra.
 
I attended a community college before the university, and there was a huge gap between when I was out of high school and when I started college so I wanted to redo a great deal of math. I took Intermediate-Alg, College-Alg, and then Precalc and Trig at the same time, before starting Calculus and so on..

I can fully understand why it is a a rather pointless class. I remember it was basically a re-cap of Log, Functions, Conics and a brief introduction to some calculus topics like limits and the difference quotient. I rather enjoyed trig though, even though much of what I learned in that class I have yet to use.
 
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I attended a community college before the university, and there was a huge gap between when I was out of high school and when I started college so I wanted to redo a great deal of math. I took Intermediate-Alg, College-Alg, and then Precalc and Trig at the same time, before starting Calculus and so on..

I can fully understand why it is a a rather pointless class. I remember it was basically a re-cap of Log, Functions, Conics and a brief introduction to some calculus topics like limits and the difference quotient. I rather enjoyed trig though, even though much of what I learned in that class I have yet to use.

"I can fully understand why it is a a rather pointless class."
Are you referring to Pre-calc being pointless, or which one?
 
cristo said:
Surely it depends on what's in the courses, not what they are called. Are you sure that the content of the courses with the same name are the same at different colleges?

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