Is Reciting Presidents the Key to Genius?

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The discussion centers around a young girl who has gained attention for her impressive memorization skills, particularly her ability to recite political speeches. While some participants express admiration for her talent, others criticize the notion of labeling her a genius based solely on memorization. There are concerns that memorizing facts does not equate to critical thinking or true intelligence. Some participants reflect on their own childhood experiences with memorization, suggesting that while it is impressive for a child, it may not be as significant as other intellectual achievements, such as mastering complex subjects. The conversation highlights differing opinions on what constitutes true genius and the expectations placed on young prodigies.
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This really impressed me.
 
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Wow a girl with a good memory.

Not impressed.

Geez i feel like cyrus.
 
Doesn't she have anything better than political facts and speeches to memorise ? Sorry, I didn't see the whole thing, but I would only have warmed to her if she'd done a recital of Shakespeare or the digits of pi later on.

Am I the only one who found her MLK oration to be more than a little creepy ?
 
I thought it was kinda creepy too for some reason...

I don't call anyone a genius if all they can do is memorize things. Critical thinking and mental processes are where the genius lies

And let's all remember, she's on oprah, she can't be that smart.
 
dude, she is like five years old. That is absolutely amazing. I bet that she gets a full scholarship to any univursity that she wants now that she has been on nationaly television (multiple times).
 
Nothing000 said:
dude, she is like five years old. That is absolutely amazing. I bet that she gets a full scholarship to any univursity that she wants now that she has been on nationaly television (multiple times).

Which means nothing.
 
Pengwuino said:
I thought it was kinda creepy too for some reason...

I don't call anyone a genius if all they can do is memorize things. Critical thinking and mental processes are where the genius lies

And let's all remember, she's on oprah, she can't be that smart.

Critical thinking and mental processes!? Dude, this is a very young child.
 
Do you think you could do that at that age?
 
I am thinking about agreeing with you up pengwuino. :smile:
 
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Nothing000 said:
I am thinking about beating you up pengwuino.:mad:

What are you, 10?

Anyone can memorize something. No one is called a genius because they memorized a harry potter book. Einstein wasn't called a genius because he memorized anything special.

Actually I am just secretly mounting a war against genius memory qualifications because i can't remember what i do hour to hour.
 
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Nothing000 said:
I am thinking about beating you up pengwuino.:mad:
Don't be an idiot. He's entitled to give his opinion, just as you are to give yours. He's not insulting this girl, just saying he's not that impressed.

There are kids who've mastered the Calculus of Variations by 4. To me (and I'll bet Penguin), that's more impressive.

She is a sweet and bright girl, on that I'll agree with you. :wink:
 
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Curious3141 said:
Don't be an idiot. He's entitled to give his opinion...


Curious is right penguino. So just let me have my opinion.
 
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How do you edit someone elses post? :biggrin:
 
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Everyone's entitled to an opinion. My opinion. :smile: :smile: :smile:

If she had learned even algebra by now, i'd be impressed. I differentiate between simply storing things in your head vs. being able to use information you've stored in a critical thinking application..
 
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Nothing000 said:
How do you edit someone elses post? :biggrin:

Bribe the mods
 
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That's one smart little girl. Good for her. I'd like to see any of you even be able to read the US constitution at her age.
 
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i could've been on oprah at that age. i use to memorize that stuff too. i use to know all of martin luther king's i had a dream speach. the preamble. the bill of rights, most of the declaration of indepenence, all of paul reveres ride and i learned to say the abc's backward and fowards, in french and english. and i knew all the presidents in chronological order. i did that all before i turned 10ish. i HATE history now. and i can't really remember any of that stuff. i remember the preamble, the first line of i had a dream, none of paul revere, but most of the presidents and i still can do the abc's thing. (backwards abc's became a popular party trick when i started drinking...)

anyway, yeah, memorization at that age isn't difficult. the kind of attention a kid gets is amazing. you're a sponge. I'm sure she's a bright girl, but its nothing spectacular. i bet she doesn't understand half of what she repeats. on another note though, i think its almost sad how much we expect in order to be impressed. meh.
 
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i learned to say the abc's backward and fowards, in french and english

Thats just sad :smile:
 
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i could've been on oprah at that age. i use to memorize that stuff too. i use to know all of martin luther king's i had a dream speach. the preamble. the bill of rights, most of the declaration of indepenence, all of paul reveres ride and i learned to say the abc's backward and fowards, in french and english. and i knew all the presidents in chronological order.
Sound's like you may've had great fun doing all that (or hated it), but I don't think most of it is helping you now.
 
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I don't think anyone could compare to Euler in terms of IQ.
 
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ranger said:
Thats just sad :smile:

what's that?? huh? ooooh, yeah, that's right, you're jealous. you're oozing with envy.

mk said:
Sound's like you may've had great fun doing all that (or hated it), but I don't think most of it is helping you now.

not so much... i had a blast though at the time! nothing like reciting a few of the presidents to get your blood going.
 

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