I Is Symmetry on μ and α Valid for the Derivative of the Metric Tensor?

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I was thinking about the metric tensor. Given a metric gμν we know that it is symmetric on its two indices. If we have gμν,α (the derivative of the metric with respect to xα), is it also valid to consider symmetry on μ and α? i.e. is the identity gμν,α = gαν,μ valid?
 
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It is not valid. A counterexample is the FLRW metric, in which ##g_{11,0}## is nonzero because the metric changes over time with the expansion of the cosmos, while ##g_{01,1}## is zero because ##g_{01}## is uniformly zero.
 
andrewkirk said:
It is not valid. A counterexample is the FLRW metric, in which ##g_{11,0}## is nonzero because the metric changes over time with the expansion of the cosmos, while ##g_{01,1}## is zero because ##g_{01}## is uniformly zero.
How would it look if we symmetrize / antisymmetrize it on its first and third indices (μ and α)?
 
What do you mean by symmetrise/antisymmetrise? In my understanding those are operations one performs on a tensor, and ##g_{ab,c}## is not a tensor, because partial differentiation (what the 'comma' does) is not a valid tensor operation.
 
andrewkirk said:
What do you mean by symmetrise/antisymmetrise? In my understanding those are operations one performs on a tensor, and ##g_{ab,c}## is not a tensor, because partial differentiation (what the 'comma' does) is not a valid tensor operation.
I'm sorry. Actually I mean how could we obtain gμα,β + gμβ,α - gαβ,μ from gαβ,μ. (I'm trying to derive the Christoffel Symbol to put it in the geodesic equation.)
 
kent davidge said:
I'm sorry. Actually I mean how could we obtain gμα,β + gμβ,α - gαβ,μ from gαβ,μ. (I'm trying to derive the Christoffel Symbol to put it in the geodesic equation.)
You are being unclear. These are not the same things.
 
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